Renton 17576 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 She's blaming Bercow in her letter to "Donald" ffs. I genuinely hope they tell us to get fucked now. We shouldn't be allowed to sully the EU for any longer. An international embarrassment of a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Sounds like she’s threatened to resign if there’s an extension beyond 30th June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 But not before attacking parliament for dragging their heels. The fucking cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, ewerk said: Juncker told May exactly this just hours ago. They’re dealing with a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34158 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, ewerk said: Sounds like she’s threatened to resign if there’s an extension beyond 30th June. She's a busted flush anyway. The only defence I can come up for her is that she's so fucking spun around by all the conflicting views that she can no longer think straight. What the fuck else can be guiding this pathetic attempt at leadership and this abject decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I don't think she's any different. Apparently in the Home Office she was reknowned for being able to make a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Macron will object to any extension of Article 50. Squeaky bum time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 The options in that case are revoke or no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19720 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, ewerk said: The options in that case are revoke or no deal. Or resignation or referendum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17576 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Or resignation or referendum No, if any of the EU27 veto an extension, revoke or no deal is all that's left. That's why I posed the question earlier, it looks to me that's where we are headed. I think parliament would go no deal just yo appease the gammons. The country is fucked. Edited March 20, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19720 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) they have said they will extend in exceptional circumstances though, and parliament failing to agree a deal doesn't hit that criteria. surely a snap election or a PV would change things? Edited March 20, 2019 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I'm not sure that a GE sorts anything. A PV would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19720 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ewerk said: I'm not sure that a GE sorts anything. A PV would do. a GE means a new leader with a mandate for some kind of exit. there's no consensus for anything right now and she refuses to seek cross-party solution. if she resigns or loses a vote of no confidence, an election is inevitable. she has said she won't revoke A50 and she won't want to go down in history as the PM who took us out of with no deal - will she? Edited March 20, 2019 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19720 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 the tories would be unelectable for decades, so every cloud.... some legacy mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3956 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Read that electoral commission reckons 5 months to organise another ref - seems excessive to me but might explain the time games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: a GE means a new leader with a mandate for some kind of exit. there's no consensus for anything right now and she refuses to seek cross-party solution. if she resigns or loses a vote of no confidence, an election is inevitable. she has said she won't revoke A50 and she won't want to go down in history as the PM who took us out of with no deal - will she? A GE does not guarantee a majority, certainly not on current polling. Theresa May also doesn't want to lead the Tories into the next election so they'd need a new leader. So you're talking about a six month process that could well see us with the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, NJS said: Read that electoral commission reckons 5 months to organise another ref - seems excessive to me but might explain the time games. I think five months is probably the standard time but given the importance and time pressures of a PV then it could be done much more quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19720 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: A GE does not guarantee a majority, certainly not on current polling. Theresa May also doesn't want to lead the Tories into the next election so they'd need a new leader. So you're talking about a six month process that could well see us with the same problem. the EU will extend A50 in these circumstances though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I wouldn't guarantee it. Not while both major parties are promising unicorns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Renton said: Aye, what's your point? Who held the referendum? Who triggered A50. Who had a GE where they lost control of parliament? Who drew extreme red li es that boxed them into a corner? Who negotiated a deal with the EU, including a backstop of their design? Who couldn't get their own party to vote for this deal? Corbyn has some culpability as being the most useless opposition ever, but your lot carry the can. Don’t shoot the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19720 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, ewerk said: I wouldn't guarantee it. Not while both major parties are promising unicorns. i wouldn't guarantee a PV achieves the result we want either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Maybe not the result we want but it can guarantee a clear unambiguous decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3956 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I accept a number of leavers will have seen sense given the options exposed but there'll still be a shit load who didn't and dont care what the actual terms are. Relying on the death/new voter thing is a bit blasé too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 Think TM could be gone in 48 hours, if that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19720 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 get your money on her surviving the year then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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