TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 All of this talk about Johnson flouting the law will surely be a vote winner on Wearside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14576 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Can somebody cleverer than me explain this apparent fresh lunacy please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19801 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, TheGingerQuiff said: All of this talk about Johnson flouting the law will surely be a vote winner on Wearside. Particularly if he curls one out on the front bench 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 This is clearly going to be a tedious week. Cummings appears to have come out all guns blazing. As for that NI backstop issue, surely they would need a majority to get that through parliament. One they won't get. Not that i understand it from that tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 It's so fucking boring now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Fully agree. Only way to end it is Remain though, it's going to drag on for a decade with No Deal. As it stands, if it is No Deal, I'm just not going to bother voting again. Nothing we can vote on after that, probably at least for a generation, is going to make up for what we will lose. The Tories can just have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26269 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, PaddockLad said: Can somebody cleverer than me explain this apparent fresh lunacy please? Basically NI would remain in the CU and SM (for all intents and purposes) and GB would leave both. Putting a hard border down the Irish Sea. It’s likely to be a very good result for NI. It would mean leaving with a deal and the two year transition period that goes with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, ewerk said: Basically NI would remain in the CU and SM (for all intents and purposes) and GB would leave both. Putting a hard border down the Irish Sea. It’s likely to be a very good result for NI. It would mean leaving with a deal and the two year transition period that goes with that. I suppose given that the DUP no longer matter this is potentially feasible, but it does mean that if Johnson campaigns on this platform he will in effect be giving +10 MPs to the Remain side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19801 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 the state of johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19801 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 nice to see him getting schooled on "getting it done". no deal would just be the beginning. about as far from a clean break as you could hope to achieve from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30367 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Yeah I said a while ago on here and Gemmill reiterated it recently that loads of people think no deal is an end point rather than it just being the start of negotiations with our bargaining power greatly diminished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 He's going to prorogue Parliament tonight. For the longest period of time since World War 2, and in the middle of a national crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I would guess that it's an attempt to call the opposition's bluff..? It makes today the last time they can do anything to avert No Deal. They either sit tight and hope that what they've done is strong enough to get us through this, or they VONC him and take control themselves, with all the consequences that entails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26269 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Varadkar isn’t sugar coating it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Apparently No. 10 has just seen polling that suggests that if there was an election now they would do worse than Theresa May. Although that obviously doesn't mean we're out of the woods since the Brexit Party could be picking the seats up instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14030 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34382 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 This is quite the run of PMs the Tories have put up. I think this is the first time anyone has ever scored a hat trick consecutive PMs that I would be quite happy to wake up and read that they'd all died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30367 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Incredible that they’ve somehow managed to get progressively worse as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19801 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Cameron still the worst of the lot for lighting the fire in the first place. Unbelievable arrogance to call the referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 In terms of absolutes, maybe. But I'd have him back in a heartbeat now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38709 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 And yet the moonfaced pigfucker seems to have got away with it blame free. Fucking rancid cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38709 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: In terms of absolutes, maybe. But I'd have him back in a heartbeat now. Really? He was just as bad as the current lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38709 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I’d love to know what the other EU members thoughts are on the UK, if they’d rather we just fucked off, if they’d rather we cancelled the whole thing and stayed- and if that happened, what our status in the EU would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Really? He was just as bad as the current lot. I don't see Cameron breaking the law or avoiding doing what Parliament says. I mean Number 10 has just confirmed that if they pass this vote to have the government release Yellowhammer and private whatsapp messages to prove proroguing was in order to ensure No Deal - they will simply ignore it. Cameron was an asshat, but no way he'd be doing this. The country is actually, without exaggeration, being hijacked by a man who could best be described as an absolute clusterfuck of an individual, and someone who I can only assume is a chartered psychopath. This is worse than Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38709 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Except, if Cameron had even a hint of a backbone, none of this would be happening. The bloke is hugely to blame, yet he’s nowhere to be seen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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