ewerk 26173 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Now refusing to request an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26173 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Shit’s about to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17620 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 What the fuck is Johnson on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17620 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Is he seriously just going to ignore the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Renton said: What the fuck is Johnson on? 3 Sausage and Egg Mcmuffins and 3 single malts probably. Edited October 19, 2019 by Anorthernsoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Renton said: @Rayvin it's not over yet. I still don't see how this changes anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Letwin himself now saying he'll vote for the deal. What did you guys think this would change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34167 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34167 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Renton said: Is he seriously just going to ignore the law? Is he fuck. He can say what he wants in Parliament. But court is a very different matter. I suspect the letter will go today, but if it doesn't it'll go on Monday under a court order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26173 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I think that may well be a position they adopt. Their only aim is to protect the union and they’ll do whatever it takes. 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17620 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Letwin himself now saying he'll vote for the deal. What did you guys think this would change? No deals off the table and the pressure is off. There will be proper scrutiny and hopefully an economic analysis. The deal won't pass now. Or there will be a PV amendment attached. Edited October 19, 2019 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26173 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Six Labour MPs voted against the amendment. I think that bodes well for the meaningful vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17620 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Six Labour MPs voted against the amendment. I think that bodes well for the meaningful vote. Yes. I hope Flint is thrown out the party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30241 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Dodds is the double of Droopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 9941 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 58 minutes ago, ewerk said: Six Labour MPs voted against the amendment. I think that bodes well for the meaningful vote. Good news for Johnson or for us? Are you assuming that no more than 6 will vote for the deal, and therefore it will lose? Or that this number is so high that he's basically guaranteed to grab enough of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26173 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 It’s hard to conclude too much from it but it’s good that the Labour rebellion wasn’t higher. What we’re going to have now is the question of how many ex-Tories are going to vote for the deal. Letwin has said he definitely will, Clarke and Boles most likely will. So Johnson needs six more from that group or Labour to back him and he has it over the line. It’s going to be very tight but at the moment the numbers are in our favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I see. Will believe this is possible only of a vote returns as much but i still don't understand how this travesty could get as close as it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34167 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Next thing we need to happen is for Bercow to refuse the govt a repeat of the vote on Monday. They're trying to pull a fast one and circumvent the Letwin Amendment. If it's remotely possible to block it, Bercow will. Rees Mogg's craic was a disgrace at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: Next thing we need to happen is for Bercow to refuse the govt a repeat of the vote on Monday. They're trying to pull a fast one and circumvent the Letwin Amendment. If it's remotely possible to block it, Bercow will. Rees Mogg's craic was a disgrace at the end of the day. How does moving it circumvent it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34167 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, ewerk said: It’s hard to conclude too much from it but it’s good that the Labour rebellion wasn’t higher. What we’re going to have now is the question of how many ex-Tories are going to vote for the deal. Letwin has said he definitely will, Clarke and Boles most likely will. So Johnson needs six more from that group or Labour to back him and he has it over the line. It’s going to be very tight but at the moment the numbers are in our favour. I think if they get another vote on the deal straight away (Monday), it'll pass. Which is why Bercow's job is massive on Monday. It was very clear from his patter at the end of the day that he wasn't impressed by Rees Mogg and he'll be looking to block any misbehaviour. This government are fucking terrible cunts. The mainstream media are complicit by not calling out all these little bullshit moves they pull. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26173 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 What happened the vote after the amendment? Was it backed or defeated without a division? I don’t see how Bercow can allow him to bring it back before he’s introduced the rest of the required legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26606 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I think if they get another vote on the deal straight away (Monday), it'll pass. Which is why Bercow's job is massive on Monday. It was very clear from his patter at the end of the day that he wasn't impressed by Rees Mogg and he'll be looking to block any misbehaviour. This government are fucking terrible cunts. The mainstream media are complicit by not calling out all these little bullshit moves they pull. The tories have absolutely done a job on the BBC after years of slating it as left leaning. Edited October 19, 2019 by Howmanheyman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34167 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: What happened the vote after the amendment? Was it backed or defeated without a division? I don’t see how Bercow can allow him to bring it back before he’s introduced the rest of the required legislation. Backed with amendment. Letwin made that point - he had to get up and point out that they were trying to pull some shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34167 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 This is what the govt is trying to pull. This is what Bercow said, and why his ruling is massively important. Although the point in the first of the above twitter thread stands that, given that this would reinstate the possibility of a no deal on 31/10, the same people who voted for Letwin today should vote the deal down in Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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