Dr Gloom 19716 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, Rayvin said: What are the tariffs likely to be? Is it an across the board figure or variable depending on specifics? sounds like they vary sector by sector, according to this explainer on the beeb: What happens if there's no trade deal? The UK would have to trade with the EU on WTO rules - at least, initially. In this scenario, the EU would impose its tariffs on imported UK goods. The average EU tariff is pretty low (about 2.8% for non-agricultural products) but in some sectors tariffs can be quite high. Cars would be taxed at 10% with some agricultural tariffs higher still - rising to an average of more than 35% for dairy products. This would have a big impact on UK businesses selling their goods to the EU. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26109 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 50 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: This would have a big impact on GB businesses selling their goods to the EU. NIYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30212 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Sadly I think the huge kick in the nads is what the country needs. Some leavers will never accept they’re wrong but enough floating voters (or selfish cunts as I like to call them) only care about their own prosperity. Something that makes them significantly worse off will be reflected at the next election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19716 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Well, it’s what they voted for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13924 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 "Thread" and all that. Of course, none of this should come as the slightest surprise to anyone who's been paying attention, but, y'know.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5874 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Rayvin said: I mean, sometimes you tell yourself that Johnson is just act, and that the real man isn't as fucking useless as he seems to be, but then you read stuff like this and realise that the only thing that makes you think he's pretending to be a buffoon is that it's simply inconceivable that a man this fucking stupid is running the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5874 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) I've got some money saved to buy a new exhaust for my bike. £1000 ish I don't want to buy it now in case I get fucked over with a bill for 20% VAT when it arrives after January 1st and customs decide the vat paid on it in Italy no longer counts But if I leave it until the new year the £ will potentially drop 20% against the € anyway meaning I still get fucked over. You can x this issue by a thousand fold for any businesses that are currently trading into and out of the EU. Everyone is being told to prepare for Brexit but it's fucking impossible unless they know what they are preparing for. It's going to be an absolute clusterfuck Edited December 11, 2020 by Kid Dynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19716 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I just bought a new house. Got a sneaky suspicion I traded up at the top of the market 🙈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14485 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I just bought a new house. Got a sneaky suspicion I traded up at the top of the market 🙈 Have you been incited into this rash act by the stamp duty holiday Gloom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13924 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I wouldn't worry, house price inflation is basically all we have left to kid ourselves into thinking we're a productive economy, so it's also the one thing every government will protect to the last. And it's not like interest rates are going up any time soon, if ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19716 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Have you been incited into this rash act by the stamp duty holiday Gloom? No. We had to move to get our kid into the catchment area for secondary school. Terrible timing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19716 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Meenzer said: I wouldn't worry, house price inflation is basically all we have left to kid ourselves into thinking we're a productive economy, so it's also the one thing every government will protect to the last. And it's not like interest rates are going up any time soon, if ever again. I dunno, I keep reading we might be entering a new inflationary period then waking up in the night in a cold sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19716 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 It’s war then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17525 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I hope the fish are grateful for the protection they are being afforded by her majesty's navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13924 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38505 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: It’s war then I remember the Cod Wars with Iceland in the 70s- shittest war ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17525 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Which we lost. Against fucking Iceland! This is a canny summary from Alex from Remainiacs or whatever its called now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26109 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 So they can’t decide if he’s disingenuous or just plain stupid. This country... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19716 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, ewerk said: So they can’t decide if he’s disingenuous or just plain stupid. This country... Bit of both tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30212 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ewerk said: So they can’t decide if he’s disingenuous or just plain stupid. This country... What gloom said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13924 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I do love a good #thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4948 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) I'd be curious to know how many people are still backing No Deal tbh. Is it still around the 40% mark or have they been shaken yet? Was polled by Yougov earlier so I'm guessing that there'll be some data on this in the coming days. Edited December 12, 2020 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3953 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Most fuckwits just want it done and don't care or understand the nuances of the talks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19716 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 What does everyone think? Brinkmanship or are the Brits actually going for no deal? I always believed common sense would prevail. It is in nobody’s interest to erect trade barriers. It’s going to be shite for the EU, even worse for us. A failure of statecraft on both sides. And yet both sides seem be boxed into a corner. How do we reach a compromise from here without another extension, which doesn’t exactly chime with getting Brexit done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4948 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I think we're going for no deal frankly. Even acknowledging the fact that as per the tweet further up, it makes absolutely no sense to do so, it also doesn't make any sense for brinkmanship to be a factor at this stage. I mean, what would we be trying to get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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