Dr Gloom 19770 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 that episode of QT demonstrated pretty beautifully why it should never have gone to a plebiscite in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26210 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 People from Yorkshire aren't the average voter. They live in a bubble forty years in the past. Just look at wyki ffs. We'd see a much higher turnout this time with many more voting remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14029 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 I suppose it'd be mildly ironic if Corbynite Labour finally inherited the country just as it had no wealth left to distribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 Never going to happen. Brexit negotiations going well, Germans falling into line on bespoke deal and financial equivalence for the city. Project fear predictions of immediate recession proved to be lies and Manufacturing growing at fastest rate since the crash. All those wo were cowered into voting remain would break free of the fear and vote leave giving a 65/35 result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26210 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Must try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30327 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Never going to happen. Brexit negotiations going well, Germans falling into line on bespoke deal and financial equivalence for the city. Project fear predictions of immediate recession proved to be lies and Manufacturing growing at fastest rate since the crash. All those wo were cowered into voting remain would break free of the fear and vote leave giving a 65/35 result. You're losing, get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Must try harder. Mostly just news headlines from yesterday but hey ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30327 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Always the best way to get a decent grasp of what's really happening that, reading the headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17699 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Mostly just news headlines from yesterday but hey ho Really? Any links to these headlines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26210 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Brexit negotiations going well We fell over the finish live of the phase one negotiations after conceding to the EU on every one of their demands. Germans falling into line on bespoke deal "Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, is strongly opposed to a British plan for so-called “managed divergence” from the EU after Brexit, with senior EU officials and experts warning that the German leader considers the idea another ruse for Britain to “have its cake and eat it”. - From The Telegraph 09/01/18 and financial equivalence for the city. "The UK could be forced to pay the EU for City firms to maintain single market access to the Continent after Brexit. Germany is behind the plan, Bloomberg reports, with officials from two departments in Berlin saying they expected the UK to make substantial payments, as well as adhering to EU law." - So equivalence is adhering to EU law and paying money to the EU for something we already have. Manufacturing growing at fastest rate since the crash. "British manufacturing is riding high on two big trends - a weaker currency and global growth." - So global growth that is nothing to do with us and a weaker currency which will not continue to aid growth in the long term. So, what do you have to say beyond the headlines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17699 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Fwiw I think a second referendum would see Remain win by some margin, looking at the polls (I know). Remain would need to fight a positive campaign and get the young out. But at the moment it's uncertain A50 can be legally cancelled. On the whole, it would be best for all concerned to remove the toxic presence of the UK from the EU political sphere but remain in the EEA. Not sure even that is possible now like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Renton said: Really? Any links to these headlines? Loads, google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30327 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 CT starting off a new round of logical fallacy bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17699 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Christmas Tree said: Loads, google. Okay, but can you at least name the news source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19770 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Brexit negotiations going well it was the marmite wot won it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17699 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Brexit negotiations going well it was the marmite wot won it Our European cousins are literally shitting shit the consistency of marmite at the thought of more expensive marmite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, Renton said: Okay, but can you at least name the news source? Loads man. Loads of coverage on the good manufacturing news and loads on the Bespoke deal and loads on them starting to come round on the financial services. All positive stuff but do beware the renewed round of willy waving that will accompany round 2. And what do we get from remainers, prayer mats out praying for an economic hammering to thwart Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26210 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Loads, google. I took the time to respond to your post. Do me the courtesy of addressing my response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17699 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 42 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Brexit negotiations going well, Germans falling into line on bespoke deal and financial equivalence for the city. Link to a reputable source or STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30327 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 There were so many he can't remember any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, ewerk said: I took the time to respond to your post. Do me the courtesy of addressing my response. Your response is a regurgitation of my points with a biased slant of language such as “fell over the line”. Again with comments about world growth boosting manufacturing. Manufacturing quite often does well when the world is growing. The bottom line is the project fear recession never materialised, most big city banks have drastically reduced their forecasts for job losses or the need to move lock stock and barrel and we’re starting to discuss our bespoke deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26210 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 You said, 'Brexit negotiations are going well', I said 'We fell over the finish line of the phase one negotiations after conceding to the EU on every one of their demands.' And yet you think we're saying the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30327 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 http://www.vuelio.com/uk/blog/todays-political-headlines-10-january-2018/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8870 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Christmas Tree said: Never going to happen. Brexit negotiations going well, Germans falling into line on bespoke deal and financial equivalence for the city. Do we? It’s probably not the country I live in but the one next to La-la-land. In meantime the big banks are securing loads of places in schools and kindergardens in and around of Frankfurt because of future plans. and this is what a link looks like http://m.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/unternehmen/brexit-folgen-fuer-frankfurter-wohnungsmarkt-und-schulen-15382819.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: that episode of QT demonstrated pretty beautifully why it should never have gone to a plebiscite in the first place See what the good folk from Islington think tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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