Rayvin 4949 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yeah, well, same. I wish they were headed by a more competent collective as well, but they aren't. Â Agree on Carillion too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 Time to take your heads out the sand.  https://t.co/4cKtkbm8Eq   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Brexit supporter in supporting Brexit shock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30247 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 There’s something telling me that’s an opinion piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38571 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Surprised you noticed that , with your head in the sand and that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hmmmn. Published analysis from countries and organisations such as the OECD, the economist, the IMF, Scotland, London, the EU, the BoE and even the treasury have been remarkably consistent in their estimates of the economic damage Brexit will do. For some reason, the people you would expect would need the information most, DExEU, haven't bothered publishing anything worthwhile.  So who to believe? A virtually unanimous collection of professional economists or CT?  Wake up sheeple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/emmanuel-macron-warns-theresa-may-british-finance-sector-will-not-be-covered-by-final-brexit-deal-a3744051.html  Time to take your head out of the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Let's be honest. Because of services (especially financial) and the NI border we won't be leaving the EU in any meaningful way. All we have done is embarrassed ourselves and lost influence by shitting in our pants. What a fucking colossal waste of time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Alex said: There’s something telling me that’s an opinion piece   not even subtle is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Renton said: Let's be honest. Because of services (especially financial) and the NI border we won't be leaving the EU in any meaningful way. All we have done is embarrassed ourselves and lost influence by shitting in our pants. What a fucking colossal waste of time and money. The loss of influence is huge though. We will basically be subject to their rules without any representation. It's the opposite of increasing our sovereignty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, ewerk said: The loss of influence is huge though. We will basically be subject to their rules without any representation. It's the opposite of increasing our sovereignty.  Yep, and with Tusk and Juncker both saying A50 can be cancelled this week, I have just the slimmest of hopes sanity will prevail before March 2019.  But then Corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13983 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I see Boris wants to build a bridge across the Channel now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Another way for those wild immigrunts to get into our glorious country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30247 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 36 minutes ago, Meenzer said: I see Boris wants to build a bridge across the Channel now. As long as him and Mike Ashley go in the foundations, I'm for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Reality bites in in the ct household   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Looks like Labour are now backing the 'have our cake and eat it' tactic. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 36 minutes ago, ewerk said: Looks like Labour are now backing the 'have our cake and eat it' tactic.  Tbf I watched that interview, and the one with Macron before, and McDonnell made a lot more sense than Corbyn has previously. Wish we had a PM as capable as Macron though.  With the agreements we've already made on NI, which are being legally enforced (despite what CT claims), the only option will for us to go into a "Norway plus" "transition". We'll be in the SM and CU, will contribute to the EU budget, accept the 4 freedoms (with some tinkering of FoM), be under ECJ jurisdiction, and have no say whatsoever on future EU edicts. We'll be technically out the EU but we won't be.  This will go on indefinitely until we fully rejoin at a layer date. This is literally a Brexiteers worst nightmare, which is highly amusing. Btw, this is all evidenced by phase 1, the GFA, Davis's leaked letter where he shat his pants at the EU making provisions for no deal, and the fact the deadline is so close and we have made zero infrastructure investment. I'd highlight May was categoric when she said there will be NO infrastructure on the NI border, not even cameras. Ergo there must be full regulatory and legal alignment.  If someone can point out where I am wrong or describe a more realistic scenario, I'm all ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30247 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Tbh, while that deal isn't great it's better than some of the frankly moronic alternatives and it'll almost be worth it to be able to the remind the 'winners' they've basically achieved giving the UK less sovereignty than it previously had. #TeamCracking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Renton said:  With the agreements we've already made on NI, which are being legally enforced (despite what CT claims), the only option will for us to go into a "Norway plus" "transition". We'll be in the SM and CU, will contribute to the EU budget, accept the 4 freedoms (with some tinkering of FoM), be under ECJ jurisdiction, and have no say whatsoever on future EU edicts. We'll be technically out the EU but we won't be.  What sort of tinkering would you suggest regarding FoM? Do any of the EEA countries restrict movement of labour in practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, ewerk said:  What sort of tinkering would you suggest regarding FoM? Do any of the EEA countries restrict movement of labour in practice?  Actually just applying the rules we already can with a bit of branding so should do it. It'll appease idiots like CT, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Alex said: Tbh, while that deal isn't great it's better than some of the frankly moronic alternatives and it'll almost be worth it to be able to the remind the 'winners' they've basically achieved giving the UK less sovereignty than it previously had. #TeamCracking  Aye, this is the irony. I think it'll get to the stage, particularly with younger demographics getting the vote, when well realise it's all been a collosal waste of time and we'll end up where we were, without the rebate. Cracking. (I doubt we'll be forced to adopt the Euro or schenghen though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34184 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Ukip imploding again. A ragtag bunch of thick as fuck arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30247 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Ukip imploding again. A ragtag bunch of thick as fuck arseholes. Nicely put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 9941 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Â Some cracking stuff in that thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26620 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 21 hours ago, Sonatine said:  Some cracking stuff in that thread  Used to be on another smaller football forum years ago when ukip were far more irrelevant and nobody gave them the time of day. One of the posters was a ukip councillor or would-be councillor. Was pro-Ashley and a bit of a loon with a fucking weird way of describing his family. @PaddockLad will remember him well. Ozymandyias I think he was called? A strange breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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