ewerk 26230 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Quote Mr Grayling said: "We have taken to our Parliament the deal reached in November and our Parliament has said no. "We want to work with the EU to reach a deal but if they are not prepared to do that – they will have to take responsibility that we are heading towards a no-deal exit. "If they are not willing to compromise, if they’re not willing to work with us to find common ground – it will be down to them if there is no deal." Elsewhere in the interview, Mr Grayling - who campaigned for Vote Leave during the EU referendum - also insisted that Nissan's decision not to build its new X-Trail model at its plant in Sunderland was more to do with the collapse in the market for diesel vehicles, rather than Brexit. He said: "Obviously I’m very disappointed by Nissan’s decision. But it’s clear that this has much more to do with the diesel car market than Brexit. Their statement of continuing commitment to the UK, whatever the outcome of the Brexit negotiations, is welcome." His remarks appeared to put him at odds with Business Secretary Greg Clark, who said Nissan's decision was a warning sign about the risks of a no-deal Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17723 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Meenzer said: Here we are, then, the start of the inevitable reframing so that none of the hedge fund managers, closet racists and war fetishist gammons have to take any of the blame. For a party that trumpets individual responsibility, the Tories aren't half good at refusing to take any themselves. This is shocking news. Who could have predicted they would blame the EU for this mess? I'm confused though. Do we have them over a barrel or are they bullies today, does @Christmas Tree know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26230 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Don't worry, May has assembled the dream team working group to sort out the backstop featuring such intellectual giants as Steve Baker, Owen Patterson and Marcus Fysh. Here's Fysh's most insightful take on the border problem to date: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30337 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17723 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 On 05/02/2019 at 10:19, ewerk said: Don't worry, May has assembled the dream team working group to sort out the backstop featuring such intellectual giants as Steve Baker, Owen Patterson and Marcus Fysh. Here's Fysh's most insightful take on the border problem to date: Cod economics from Fysh? What the fuck is really happening to this country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17723 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Alex said: I thought he'd managed to roll over the EU Chile deal? Meanwhile, Thornberry has demonstrated why Labour are not fit to vote for. Pathetic. Didn't Corbyn promise to push for PV in the event he couldn't force an election. Its too late now, time is almost up. Looks like the lunatics have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3973 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Amendments for pv and extension were voted down. Numbers, numbers, numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19784 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 fantastic dr fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26230 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Renton said: I thought he'd managed to roll over the EU Chile deal? Meanwhile, Thornberry has demonstrated why Labour are not fit to vote for. Pathetic. Didn't Corbyn promise to push for PV in the event he couldn't force an election. Its too late now, time is almost up. Looks like the lunatics have won. They voted to keep the option of a PV on the table. It was of course worded so as to give Corbyn as much wiggleroom as possible to avoid calling for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17723 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, NJS said: Amendments for pv and extension were voted down. Numbers, numbers, numbers. Ammendment for PV? Did I miss this? It's as clear as day Corbyn would never let PV get through. Stop apologising for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26230 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, NJS said: Amendments for pv and extension were voted down. Numbers, numbers, numbers. Really? When was the amendment for a People's Vote tabled? You don't really seem to understand just how a call for a People's Vote would succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3973 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, ewerk said: Really? When was the amendment for a People's Vote tabled? You don't really seem to understand just how a call for a People's Vote would succeed. As I said before unless quite a few tory MPs voted for it, it could never happen. There is no evidence whatsoever that enough tories would even consider it - let alone if it was backed by Labour. The idea that any leader could "force" another vote is wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17723 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, NJS said: As I said before unless quite a few tory MPs voted for it, it could never happen. There is no evidence whatsoever that enough tories would even consider it - let alone if it was backed by Labour. The idea that any leader could "force" another vote is wishful thinking. So was his vote of confidence. He said he'd do that, and he did. He said he would try and get a PV if his vote of no confidence failed, and he hasn't. Just to be clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26230 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, NJS said: As I said before unless quite a few tory MPs voted for it, it could never happen. There is no evidence whatsoever that enough tories would even consider it - let alone if it was backed by Labour. The idea that any leader could "force" another vote is wishful thinking. In a free vote there would be the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17723 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Uh oh. Much as I agree with Tusk, his comment will set the gammon snowflakes on fire. My nodealometer is on 90%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14030 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30337 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 The gammons are the biggest snowflakes of the lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14574 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, Renton said: Uh oh. Much as I agree with Tusk, his comment will set the gammon snowflakes on fire. My nodealometer is on 90%. European Council President Donald Tusk has said there is a "special place in hell" for "those who promoted Brexit without even a sketch of a plan of how to carry it safely". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17723 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alex said: The gammons are the biggest snowflakes of the lot Leazes was fucking constantly outraged at being discriminated against because he was a white, middle aged, Christian man. Fuming he was, constantly. I can already picture the slathering gammonflakes on QT tomorrow. There will be hell to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17723 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Gaan on Tusky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14030 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Meanwhile, it's a bit childish but I appreciate the reference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30337 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Renton said: Leazes was fucking constantly outraged at being discriminated against because he was a white, middle aged, Christian man. Fuming he was, constantly. I can already picture the slathering gammonflakes on QT tomorrow. There will be hell to pay. And, in keeping with your average gammon, he’s an absolute weapons-grade lunatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30337 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, Renton said: Gaan on Tusky! They’ll be offended by that as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17723 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Leadsom has pissed her knickers. As an aside, I struggle to believe she is 62. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30337 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Just now, Renton said: Leadsom has pissed her knickers. As an aside, I struggle to believe she is 62. Because she’s 55? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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