Rayvin 4949 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14532 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 @@ewerk haven't you got bigger fish to fry today?....  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-northern-ireland-referendum-irish-unity-sinn-fein-second-scottish-independence-indyref2-a7628591.html?cmpid=facebook-post  "Bob chance mon ami" as they say in Carrickfergus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26193 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I can't see us getting a referendum on the matter any time soon, though Scotland leaving the Union would certainly strengthen the case for it. Â The Brexit vote has made me reconsider whether a united Ireland would be such a bad thing and it certainly has made me more likely to back such a proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I can't see us getting a referendum on the matter any time soon, though Scotland leaving the Union would certainly strengthen the case for it. Â The Brexit vote has made me reconsider whether a united Ireland would be such a bad thing and it certainly has made me more likely to back such a proposal. Â What is the argument against a united Ireland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30270 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 A lot of people in the North don't want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26193 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Politically, the Prods don't want to be ruled by Fenian bastards. Â My concern has always been more economic but post-Brexit I really think NI will struggle with our economy and may well see a rise in paramilitarism should we face tough times and should a hard border be re-instated with the south. Â I'm not entirely sure that the Republic of Ireland really want us though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30270 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think the only compromise might be an independent country within the EU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26193 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Then we'd really be fucked. We need a daddy figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Politically, the Prods don't want to be ruled by Fenian bastards. Â My concern has always been more economic but post-Brexit I really think NI will struggle with our economy and may well see a rise in paramilitarism should we face tough times and should a hard border be re-instated with the south. Â I'm not entirely sure that the Republic of Ireland really want us though. Â How raw are the wounds there? Is it one of these things where over time, each generation will care less about what went on and eventually people will come together and agree that it's a good move? Â Also, why do you think they wouldn't want you? Same reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13991 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Then we'd really be fucked. We need a daddy figure. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26193 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 How raw are the wounds there? Is it one of these things where over time, each generation will care less about what went on and eventually people will come together and agree that it's a good move? Â Also, why do you think they wouldn't want you? Same reasons? Â There's still more than enough bitter fucks to cause trouble and there will be for as long as I'm alive. Â The Republic may not be able to afford us. Decades of violence and under-investment by consecutive British governments has meant that we aren't net contributors to the Treasury so it would be a strain on Irish finances to adopt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26193 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Â I'd imagine she isn't too keen to have another broke economy suckling at her magnificent teets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I understand. In the long term I think it'd be an economic boost for Ireland, but based on what you're saying about underinvestment I can see the more immediate challenge. Â Presumably then it's best for everyone at the moment that you don't leave the union? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14532 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 It's all getting a bit "Yugoslavia 91" round these parts iyam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13991 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hope so. It was fabulous. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26193 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 At least Eurovision is our chance to be a united Ireland. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13991 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 See. Light entertainment there, setting an example for the wider world to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26193 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I understand. In the long term I think it'd be an economic boost for Ireland, but based on what you're saying about underinvestment I can see the more immediate challenge. Â Presumably then it's best for everyone at the moment that you don't leave the union? Â There would be a requirement for the British government to continue paying towards our costs for a certain period of time but seeing as they caused this situation in the first place it would only be right that they should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 There would be a requirement for the British government to continue paying towards our costs for a certain period of time but seeing as they caused this situation in the first place it would only be right that they should do. Â Agreed. Can't imagine there would be much opposition to such a move outside of people like UKIP anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26193 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 And half of Northern Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I meant the UK paying for it, not the whole thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26193 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Every little Englander would balk at paying towards it I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) I would have said that UKIP covers all of them, but apparently they're now falling apart as Aaron Banks has taken his ball and gone home - and he's going to make a new party for the less intellectually endowed in the UK: Â https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/14/ukip-donor-arron-banks-says-he-has-quit-party-to-set-up-ukip-20 Â He's going to set up a second UKIP apparently Fucking idiot. Edited March 14, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26193 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 UKIP imploding as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13991 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Doesn't matter, they're in charge anyway. Though May doesn't like it when you point it out. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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