Rayvin 4948 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Pardew apparently told the BBC that it's ligament damage and serious bruising. That actually (optimism) doesn't sound too bad... No medic though, ligament damage could be worse than a break for all I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6127 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 What an utter fucking shambles that was from the referee and assistants. Granted we weren't very good, but that challenge was horrible. And their winning 'goal' came from what should have been our corner and then a blatant hand ball! Â Review panel and a couple of weeks off the the incompetent bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17523 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Pardew apparently told the BBC that it's ligament damage and serious bruising. That actually (optimism) doesn't sound too bad... No medic though, ligament damage could be worse than a break for all I know. Â It can be a lot worse actually. Depends on the exact nature of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Essien did his ligaments and hasn't been the same since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4948 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Well that isn't good to hear. I wonder if the FA will wait on hearing how bad it is before passing judgement. If at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausman 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Unfortunately I couldn't see the game, I know we lost but could someone give a rough summary of what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Cruciate ligament is the injury all footballers dread. You can come back from it (Van Nistelrooy is one example) but its a long hard road. Looking at 6-9 months out, maybe more. Â Balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloopJohn 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 the worst thing is that this means we might have to play Simpson in the Europe League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Unfortunately I couldn't see the game, I know we lost but could someone give a rough summary of what happened. Â Even game. We started brightly but lost Debuchy early to injury. Then they scored. Then macmanaman committed GBH on Haidara. Carver kicked off at half the and was sent to the stands for the second half. Pardew reshuffled things second half with Shola joining Cisse up front and santon out wide. We started to create chances after looking poor for most of the first half. Santon scored a great goal, cutting in from the right. Then Cisse had a chance from the 6 yard box saved after finally getting a good ball in from Shola. Ten as we were pressing for the winner, we concede a soft corner from a sliced clearance. The ball is handled twice. All our players appeal and the ball ends up in the back of the net while they all stand like statues with their hands in the air. Â Infuriating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 the worst thing is that this means we might have to play Simpson in the Europe League  Jonas did alright at left back - and at defensive midfield. He's starting to find some form again, thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 We've now lost the same number of games as bottom of the league QPR..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5874 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Calmed down a bit now and put things in perspective. We are in the 1/4final of the Europa, we still have a good team, we have some winnable games coming up and most teams around us can't buy a win. QPR and Reading nailed on to go down so we just need to make sure we better Sunderland and Villas results which I'm confident we will. Â I still can't get my head around the Mackems being happy we lost despite it putting them possibly 1 point within relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3953 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Calmed down a bit now and put things in perspective. We are in the 1/4final of the Europa, we still have a good team, we have some winnable games coming up and most teams around us can't buy a win. QPR and Reading nailed on to go down so we just need to make sure we better Sunderland and Villas results which I'm confident we will.  I still can't get my head around the Mackems being happy we lost despite it putting them possibly 1 point within relegation  8 games left and the only "banker" is Fulham who've just won at Spurs.  Why should a team thats won one game all season suddenly expect to get points off Man City, West Brom and West Ham?   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17523 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Cruciate ligament is the injury all footballers dread. You can come back from it (Van Nistelrooy is one example) but its a long hard road. Looking at 6-9 months out, maybe more. Â Balls. Â More relevant examples for us include Shearer and Owen, surely? Also finished Clough's playing career which might otherwise have been great. Coming to think of it, odd that all the above mentioned were strikers, can't think offhand any examples of defenders that have come back from serious cruciate damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausman 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Even game. We started brightly but lost Debuchy early to injury. Then they scored. Then macmanaman committed GBH on Haidara. Carver kicked off at half the and was sent to the stands for the second half. Pardew reshuffled things second half with Shola joining Cisse up front and santon out wide. We started to create chances after looking poor for most of the first half. Santon scored a great goal, cutting in from the right. Then Cisse had a chance from the 6 yard box saved after finally getting a good ball in from Shola. Ten as we were pressing for the winner, we concede a soft corner from a sliced clearance. The ball is handled twice. All our players appeal and the ball ends up in the back of the net while they all stand like statues with their hands in the air. Â Infuriating. Â Thanks for the info, Nice to see Santon finally get his goal. So did the cunt who did the gbh on Haidara get sent off or was it a typical Hallsey refereeing and let the prick off? Really thought we would shit on Wigan. Ah well there's always Man City to shit on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17523 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Thanks for the info, Nice to see Santon finally get his goal. So did the cunt who did the gbh on Haidara get sent off or was it a typical Hallsey refereeing and let the prick off? Really thought we would shit on Wigan. Ah well there's always Man City to shit on. Â Wasn't even given a free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 The officials were a fucking joke, a broken leg and a hand ball cost us the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausman 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Well a normal day of standards with Referees then. Cunts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Â More relevant examples for us include Shearer and Owen, surely? Also finished Clough's playing career which might otherwise have been great. Coming to think of it, odd that all the above mentioned were strikers, can't think offhand any examples of defenders that have come back from serious cruciate damage. Â It used to end careers but surgery has come on massively. That's not to say it won't threaten his career or his level of play in future but there's more hope than there used to be. Shearer was never the same in terms of mobility after doing his ligaments but iirc it was the ankle for him. Owen definitely lost a yard of pace but I think that part of his game was starting to decline before he did his knee at the World Cup. Â Arteta and Skertel are two other recent examples of players that have come back from cruciate injuries and managed to recover to play at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 So fucking sad for Haidara, feel generally bad allround. He's done well since he came in. There's just no protection for players due to officials being so imcompetant now. If they couldn't that and the hand ball is a fucking travesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Aren't a lot of cruciate injuries caused by players getting their studs caught in the turf? Can't remember many caused by a stud high challenge anyway. Â *clutching at straws* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17523 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 It used to end careers but surgery has come on massively. That's not to say it won't threaten his career or his level of play in future but there's more hope than there used to be. Shearer was never the same in terms of mobility after doing his ligaments but iirc it was the ankle for him. Owen definitely lost a yard of pace but I think that part of his game was starting to decline before he did his knee at the World Cup. Â Arteta and Skertel are two other recent examples of players that have come back from cruciate injuries and managed to recover to play at a high level. Â Aye, it was an ankle injury for Shearer come to think of it. Anyway, ligaments don't heal well at all, a serious ligament injury is as bad as a compound fracture for a footballer. Fingers crossed for the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Aren't a lot of cruciate injuries caused by players getting their studs caught in the turf? Can't remember many caused by a stud high challenge anyway. *clutching at straws*  Aye, that's why I was wondering if it was a break at first. It's an impact challenge and often cruciates are torn quite innocuously when a player just twists their knee awkwardly on the turf. Fuck knows if that means there's any chance of it being a more minor rupture.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 It could be worse mentally for the lad when he comes back as well. Hopefully he's strong mentally when he returns or it could be a longer recovery for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Â Â Arteta and Skertel are two other recent examples of players that have come back from cruciate injuries and managed to recover to play at a high level. Â Essien (amongst other injuries) had an ACL tear and hasn't been the same player since. I mean, he's still good enough for Real Madrid but before his injury woes he was one of the best midfielders in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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