OTF 6134 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Football genius at work. Sickening to read, makes us much less desirable and therefore will prolong the period of suffering and downturn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 He's made his fortune out of buying decent brands and taking them down market at a rate of knots. I suppose we're no different, he cheapens everything he owns (except his shares). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 He's made his fortune out of buying decent brands and taking them down market at a rate of knots. I suppose we're no different, he cheapens everything he owns (except his shares). Not strictly true. He usually buys well known brands that have gone bust and breathes new life into them. Karrimor being a good example. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 He moves production, knocks them out as cheap as can be and relies on the name to sell to people who don't know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 "err, wha' La?" Imagine waking up with that head and that accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsack 0 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Look at Cardiff, Chelsea and us. I suppose these owners DO OWN the club and we can be a pretty disrespectful bunch. 'But its my Club', Ashley will rail. 'One moment the fans r happy but 2 losses on the trot and they're at me!' With the likes of the above owners their egos get them at loggerheads with fans at ANY criticism of themselves. Egos the size of the man who ate all the pies. As B Clough once said. 'Do not massage the ego of owners cos they'll start to think they should pick the team.'(something along those lines, anyway) Truth is, they all want to be managers, successful managers at that. (cos its easy, aint it joe?) Hangers on tell em they can do it and hey presto, down the league the club goes. Ash wants JFK as a buffer between himself and us at the mo, someone to sit with at the match and giggle with (don't it make u sick?) When Pardew gets the bullet its gonna be JFK to ride us down to the blue square(?) league. Joe Harveys days were glory. Expectations weren't too high, we won the fairs cup. I even enjoyed us winning the Texaco Cup competition type things. Moncur 'raised the fairs cup to the sky'. 'Black and White Christmas' on youtube says it all. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Not strictly true. He usually buys well known brands that have gone bust and breathes new life into them. Karrimor being a good example. Just saying It's true he's bought some of his brands from distressed sellers. However he makes his money by slashng production quality and costs and churning out cheap tat till consumers eventually realise the brand is fucked. I remember when brands like Dunlop. Slazenger, Donnay, Lonsdale were quality....not anymore. If that's "breathing new life into them" then I agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 A win against Chelski and the Spuds and I bet a vast swathe of Toon 'fans' have now been placated in their hate of Mike Ashley, I'm not sure if it's those supporters that deserve everything we get under the Fat C*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26269 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Do you know any of these fans or do they only exist in your head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Just CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26269 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 In fairness, CT never hated Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Do you know any of these fans or do they only exist in your head? Do you honestly think they don't exist? Incidentally, when there's nobody on the board to argue with do you argue with the voices in your head? Just wondering like because you could get tablets for that I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26269 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Leazeslite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 In fairness, CT never hated Ashley. Think he did. When Keegan went and then when Pardew got the job he was raging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Im a lover not a hater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38708 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Im an eater not a hater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Do you think Mike Ashley is a football genius CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38708 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Do you think,CT?Tidied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26745 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 On a separate matter, one of our accountant writers noted in the new issue of true faith (TF107) the to the Sports Direct Annual Report for 2012, Sports Direct made £498,000 from Newcastle United out of “Related Party Transactions”. We would welcome the club to explain what this payment from Newcastle United to Sports Direct represents. What is it for? Officials at the club will understand, given the disquiet amongst supporters who have learnt Sports Direct receives extensive free advertising from Newcastle United, this additional news of the club making payments to the company owned largely by Mike Ashley will further increase concern at how Newcastle United operates. http://www.true-faith.co.uk/newcastle-united-sports-direct-questions/ Looks like anyone buying from the club's website are in fact buying from sportsdirect through a proxy company called nufcdirect as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6837 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 http://www.true-faith.co.uk/newcastle-united-sports-direct-questions/ Looks like anyone buying from the club's website are in fact buying from sportsdirect through a proxy company called nufcdirect as well. Doesn't matter so long as the club are not worse off: As an illustrative made up example, maybe all the merchandise storage/distribution/logistics etc used to cost NUFC around £700K a year, if they outsourced that to SD (who will have a huge distribution network) for £500K, the club would pay SD £500K (or 498K) but actually be £200K better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26745 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Doesn't matter so long as the club are not worse off: As an illustrative made up example, maybe all the merchandise storage/distribution/logistics etc used to cost NUFC around £700K a year, if they outsourced that to SD (who will have a huge distribution network) for £500K, the club would pay SD £500K (or 498K) but actually be £200K better off. You could see how it would be a concern that an organisation other than NUFC were getting money through NUFC shirts when there's little trust that our owner gives a flying fuck about NUFC. He's already shown that as a high flying business tycoon he has somehow halved our profitability disregarding television money. Sportsdirect is doing canny, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6837 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) You could see how it would be a concern that an organisation other than NUFC were getting money through NUFC shirts when there's little trust that our owner gives a flying fuck about NUFC. He's already shown that as a high flying business tycoon he has somehow halved our profitability disregarding television money. Sportsdirect is doing canny, though. What profitability have we ever had to half, with or without TV money ???? Other organisations have always made money through our shirts, it all comes down to the margin the club makes on a shirt irrespective of who sells it. I understand the distrust bit but £500K to SD is peanuts. You never know he could be saving the club a load of money, SD may be doing all the stuff for NUFC at cost, then again they may not. We'll likely never know but just because there's money going that way doesn't mean it's a "new" or bad cost tbh. Edited November 20, 2013 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I expect an insightful article from Kinnear in the next programme on the income to be generated from paying Sports Direct for services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 What profitability have we ever had to half, with or without TV money ???? Other organisations have always made money through our shirts, it all comes down to the margin the club makes on a shirt irrespective of who sells it. I understand the distrust bit but £500K to SD is peanuts. You never know he could be saving the club a load of money, SD may be doing all the stuff for NUFC at cost, then again they may not. We'll likely never know but just because there's money going that way doesn't mean it's a "new" or bad cost tbh. Probably can assume it's not benefitting Newcastle United as long as they're not singing about it from the rooftops though eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26745 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 What profitability have we ever had to half, with or without TV money ???? Other organisations have always made money through our shirts, it all comes down to the margin the club makes on a shirt irrespective of who sells it. I understand the distrust bit but £500K to SD is peanuts. You never know he could be saving the club a load of money, SD may be doing all the stuff for NUFC at cost, then again they may not. We'll likely never know but just because there's money going that way doesn't mean it's a "new" or bad cost tbh. Our commercial income has been halved under Mike Ashley's reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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