Happy Face 29 Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 I still can't see past Wigan to go down like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14574 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 By the final game I imagine they'll be no more than 3 teams who can still go down.... that'll be those still on 38 points or less... mackems, Norwich and Wigan. Ourselves and Southampton to win this weekend....perhaps... actually Norwich can conceiveably beat WBA at home, leaving a crapshoot between the tramps and Wigan on the final day with tramps at Champions League scrapping Spurs . Villa could well be safe by then just by Arsenal beating Wigan on Tuesday (shirley?) so they may not have a lot to play for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) I still can't see past Wigan to go down like. Not sure why? All they have to do is beat Villa at home and we do our usual fuck up. Hope you're right like. Edited May 10, 2013 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34330 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Wigan lose to Arsenal. We draw with QPR. It's that simple. What happened to your annoyingly sunny outlook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 By the final game I imagine they'll be no more than 3 teams who can still go down.... that'll be those still on 38 points or less... mackems, Norwich and Wigan. Ourselves and Southampton to win this weekend....perhaps... actually Norwich can conceiveably beat WBA at home, leaving a crapshoot between the tramps and Wigan on the final day with tramps at Champions League scrapping Spurs . Villa could well be safe by then just by Arsenal beating Wigan on Tuesday (shirley?) so they may not have a lot to play for As much as I do like the Derbys and normally hope Sunderland stop up, going into the last game with us safe and them not would be heaven and lead to a joyous day on the piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Wigan lose to Arsenal. We draw with QPR. It's that simple. What happened to your annoyingly sunny outlook? It will return 10 fold should such results occur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14574 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 It will return 10 fold should such results occur And a bump of the "Mike Ashley football genius" thread?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 Not sure why? Only won one of their last 5 Booed off by their own fans at the end of their last game 3 points adrift of everyone else Arsenal away up next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Wigan looked canny going forward against Swansea, but their defence was as bad as I've seen in a long time. Providing they don't do anything silly like get a man sent off, Arsenal should have no trouble picking them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8977 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Wigan looked canny going forward against Swansea, but their defence was as bad as I've seen in a long time. Providing they don't do anything silly like get a man sent off, Arsenal should have no trouble picking them off. Also I think the fight that has kept them up in the past, isn't evident this term. Wouldn't be surprised to see Martinez leave if they do go down. Also wouldn't be surprised if the club fail to return for a long time. They've neither the finances, nor the fanbase to expect an immediate return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14574 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Also I think the fight that has kept them up in the past, isn't evident this term. Wouldn't be surprised to see Martinez leave if they do go down. Also wouldn't be surprised if the club fail to return for a long time. They've neither the finances, nor the fanbase to expect an immediate return. 10 years of premier league income, selling players for (in some cases) huge profits (Valencia,Palacios,Cattatwat,Baines etc etc..) yet something I saw the other day says theyre in the bottom 3 wage-wise in the division....Whelan is trousering fuckin millions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8977 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 10 years of premier league income, selling players for (in some cases) huge profits (Valencia,Palacios,Cattatwat,Baines etc etc..) yet something I saw the other day says theyre in the bottom 3 wage-wise in the division....Whelan is trousering fuckin millions Yeah, Whelan is, but Wigan aren't going to be able to buy their way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 They've got a low wage bill, but they also have quite a low turnover. I think they actually turned over a profit last season, but they're just not a big enough draw to make sustained profits AND pay out the wages needed to attract and retain the top players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Also, I think the club was bank rolled by Whelan in the past. If I remember correctly, they owed him something like £70-80m at one point, but this has come right down recently. On that basis, he's taken some of his loan back, but he's still owed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26229 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 All their players automatically take wage cuts in the event of relegation. That coupled with parachute payments means that they could conceivably keep most of their squad together for a tilt at promotion first time out. Whether the players will want to stay is another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14574 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Also, I think the club was bank rolled by Whelan in the past. If I remember correctly, they owed him something like £70-80m at one point, but this has come right down recently. On that basis, he's taken some of his loan back, but he's still owed money. Aye fair enough. Although if that was Ashley I'd be fuckin fuming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Just had a quick look at their accounts. Whelan didn't draw any salary in either of the previous two seasons. The club appears to be supported by loans from various sources, the biggest creditor being the bank. The loans are secured by personal guarantee from Whelan himself, implying they don't own their stadium. Haven't got the time to dig deeper, and it's off on a bit of a tangent from the rest of the thread anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Aye fair enough. Although if that was Ashley I'd be fuckin fuming Prepare to fume - that's exactly what Ashley is doing now. He'll probably take £10-20m of his loan back each season from now on, if we stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Prepare to fume - that's exactly what Ashley is doing now. He'll probably take £10-20m of his loan back each season from now on, if we stay up. As long as we keep getting good players in Im fine with that. Should he come to sell the club being debt free will only assist / keep the price reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14574 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Prepare to fume - that's exactly what Ashley is doing now. He'll probably take £10-20m of his loan back each season from now on, if we stay up. tbh, I wasnt at my most serious...he's perfectly entitled to do that, the fat cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 QPR have gone 365 minutes without a PL Goal, Newcastle 262 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Wish it was Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Wish it was Monday I bloody don't! Give me the weekend, any er.. day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Can't see Norwich getting anything out of WBA and City. Villa are safe no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Can't see Norwich getting anything out of WBA and City. Villa are safe no question. West Brom have lost their last two and aren't exactly on fire right now. Not saying that Norwich are but I woudln't entirely dismiss them just yet. I'd like to think Villa are worried about relegation in their final game of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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