David Kelly 472 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I guess,though mostly I just want Jack Colback away from the 1st team entirely. Ideally but my heart doesn't exactly sink when he's paired with Shelvey. I'd rather see a motivated Tiote played ahead of him but it doesn't seem like that's an option. Wasn't Mbemba supposed to be able to play as a defensive midfielder? Link to post Share on other sites
David Kelly 472 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Would probably agree on the whole with DK's assessment although I think it's a fairly easy role to play when he's alongside Shelvey in CM and the other players he has alongside him. Dyer's a funny one to bring up though as Colback will never do 10% of what he did for NUFC. I agree with all of that but I think Dickie has a point that Dyer at times hid. When he didn't he was so far beyond what Colback is it's like a different sport. But he was a cunt at times too. Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 857 Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Ideally but my heart doesn't exactly sink when he's paired with Shelvey. I'd rather see a motivated Tiote played ahead of him but it doesn't seem like that's an option. Wasn't Mbemba supposed to be able to play as a defensive midfielder? I claw at my eyes whenever I see that Ginger bellend on the teamsheet. Tiote is surely off in the window? I'm not a fan of playing Centre backs in midfield, it often seems to be a suggestion of Centre Backs who're more comfortable on the ball, to push them forward a bit. It was said of Colo and Bramble. I'd much rather just play an actual DM there. Link to post Share on other sites
Dickie 0 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Would probably agree on the whole with DK's assessment although I think it's a fairly easy role to play when he's alongside Shelvey in CM and the other players he has alongside him. Dyer's a funny one to bring up though as Colback will never do 10% of what he did for NUFC. I agree on that as well - they were just the first two names that sprang to mind as examples of players who went missing when it suited them. Dyer a totally different kettle of fish as a player Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 6,158 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Tell you what like, Jenas had everything but the heart and temperament to be one of the best midfielders in the league, if not Europe. Such a shame really. Link to post Share on other sites
Tooj 16 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Sir Bobby pretty much said the exact same thing in his autobiography. Link to post Share on other sites
aimaad22 38 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Compare Colback to Bowyer/Smith if you must, useless headless chicken runners extraordinaire. Link to post Share on other sites
Kid Dynamite 1,272 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Colbacks favourite pass is a one touch pass back to whoever passed to him. Pretty much the biggest waste of time in a match unless you're doing it from a throw in. Probably makes his stats look good though Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 1,798 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 The problem with Colback is more that him and Hayden are a shocking partnership (especially when we have a left winger who isn't exactly flying down the flank). Colback has been adequate when paired with Shelvey because they clearly compliment each other more. Hayden is a lot better than Colback but in this division, used in his right way, Colback is fine. Unfortunately we've found out to our cost in the last few games, that we don't have adequate cover for Shelvey. Actually I think this has been evident throughout the season because generally in the games we've lost, Shelvey hasn't been able to dictate and we've needed another option that we haven't had. Which is another reason why people have wanted to see us play another striker. Otherwise will have taken note of our struggles without Shelvey and do more to neutralise him. We need a plan B pronto Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Face 27 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I think we need shelvey B more than we need to start concentrating on other formations/styles before perfecting the managers favorite. Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,792 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Players with Shelvey's vision and passing range aren't easy to come by. And won't be happy to sit on the bench. So we'd need someone with his skills and also able to play in another position on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites
OTF 560 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Nicky Butt never hid. Bullshit Link to post Share on other sites
Kid Dynamite 1,272 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I appreciate this window is hard to do business in but we've been shite since December without Shelvey, Reading could be 3 points behind us tonight and we still haven't addressed the glaring lack of creativity in our team. The club should have been breaking their backs to have a deal in place for the first day of the window. Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Face 27 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I appreciate this window is hard to do business in but we've been shite since December without Shelvey, Reading could be 3 points behind us tonight and we still haven't addressed the glaring lack of creativity in our team. The club should have been breaking their backs to have a deal in place for the first day of the window.The majority support Ashley now man. We're a club on the up. Everything had changed. ... Not sure why we still aren't breaking ground on the training facility upgrade mind. And not sure why there's been no fans forums. Or why nust haven't been readmiitted after a dialogue was promised at the last one. And not sure why we've heard no more about the deal for sports direct to pay for their advertising. And I know the club debt has increased by more than a quarter although we made £30m profit in the last transfer window. ... But Ashley has learned his lessons and there's no need to worry about Rafa getting all he needs whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,792 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-team-coming-to-dads-funeral-made-it-the-best-moment-of-my-life-2nc8f5q77?shareToken=5c852c723a7994bf930ba3b7c7070ad3 A non-Newcastle piece this time but a good read about Knockaert. Seems like Hughton has again succeeded in creating a fantastic squad spirit down there. Link to post Share on other sites
Rayvin 1,343 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Players with Shelvey's vision and passing range aren't easy to come by. And won't be happy to sit on the bench. So we'd need someone with his skills and also able to play in another position on the pitch. This is a fair point. The alternative being we get someone in on loan (youngster with ability or some such). It's not looking like very much at all is going to happen at this point though. Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 6,158 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Bullshit He was one of the few players who took responsibility at that time, despite not really being able to create and looking shit as a result. You disagree, but you're fucking wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
PaddockLad 2,905 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 He was one of the few players who took responsibility at that time, despite not really being able to create and looking shit as a result. You disagree, but you're fucking wrong. The reason he looked so fuckin shit at Cardiff v manu is he was the only one in midfield that day not hiding He wasn't great in any way for us but cowardice isn't really him iyam. There again, he did fuck off to Birmingham for a season..he probably knew what to expect the next season from the err "more emotional" elements of our support Link to post Share on other sites
Dickie 0 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-team-coming-to-dads-funeral-made-it-the-best-moment-of-my-life-2nc8f5q77?shareToken=5c852c723a7994bf930ba3b7c7070ad3 A non-Newcastle piece this time but a good read about Knockaert. Seems like Hughton has again succeeded in creating a fantastic squad spirit down there. Yes he's got a good thing going there. I think team spirit is the one area they've got the edge over us - they seem to be able to come back from going a goal down and manage to eek out draws and narrow wins, which is normally the mark of a good spirit. Link to post Share on other sites
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Howay 2,502 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Top bloke tbh. He's done a cracking job there, seems to be good at creating a good team atmosphere, at least he did that here and Brighton anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Ant 342 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 was just coming to post that tweet glad he's done so well with brighton, thought he's done a pretty much excellent job whereever he has managed so far, and shouldn't have been let go by us at the time Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 3,177 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Gets us promoted first time of asking, safely in mid table half way into first season back, sacked and replaced by pardew.#mikeashleylogic Link to post Share on other sites
rogerbarton 24 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Saw a few people suggesting he had Norwich almost relegated... actually, he kept them up first season and they were outside the relegation places when he got the sack. Given the limitations of their squad I wouldn't deem that a failure of any kind. Great man and great manager. Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 906 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Saw a few people suggesting he had Norwich almost relegated... actually, he kept them up first season and they were outside the relegation places when he got the sack. Given the limitations of their squad I wouldn't deem that a failure of any kind. Great man and great manager. They've not exactly got better for him leaving. Link to post Share on other sites
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