Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 I'm not really sure what the club have done wrong with this like. You could say that they could have paid for his treatment but he is (I assmume being a premiership footballer) a weathly bloke so I don't really think it's out of order to for him to have paid. It doesn't sound like they have put him under any pressure to come back when he wasn't ready and they've just decided he wasn't a necessary member of the team. Throughout it all they respected his privicy. I'm all for having a go at our current regime but I can't really see a problem with what's went on here. What has Jonas said that wasn't known before this comment? It's a pretty straightforward question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13815 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 ANSWER THE QUESTION!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1115 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 If you can be bothered to go back and find that quote from me how can you not find what he said when it was only posted today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 If you can be bothered to go back and find that quote from me how can you not find what he said when it was only posted today? Maybe it's not showing up on tapatalk??? Surely it's easy for someone just to tell me what Jonas has said today ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4183 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Maybe it's not showing up on tapatalk??? Surely it's easy for someone just to tell me what Jonas has said today ffs. You'd like to think so wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13815 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1115 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I can see the link on tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 I can see the link on tapatalk All I can see "new" is a link posted by ADP yesterday which states that Jonas was unhappy at being told to find a new club after he came back to Newcastle following surgery. This was fully discussed in here on 16th September... http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/34682-jonas-gutierrez/page-35#entry1300406 And you still went on to say the club had done nothing wrong and Jonas was upset and losing his place. So I ask for the last time.... What has changed, what am I missing?? The timeline as I see it.. Found out he had cancer and allowed to return home for surgery etc. Returns to fitness, comes back and advised he wasnt part of the plans going forward Goes to Norwich on loan Cancer comes back and newcastle again let him return home to Argentina for treatment. This was all known two weeks ago and is detailed in this thread. I honestly must be missing something however if no one wants to tell me what it is then fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1115 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I might be wrong but I think he'd dropped back in the pecking order since Goufrrans arival into the lots of graft but no end product position. Actually I am wrong, he'd played in at least the last 10 games of the previous season. That said we were in the best form we'd been in since we'd finished 5th just before he went to Norwich so it's still perfectly conceivable that they just decided he was no longer needed. Mind you, if he comes out and says he thinks we tried to get rid of him becuase of his illness I'll happily eat my words and believe him over those cunts running the club. What Jonas has most recently said, comes accross to me (and everyone else it seems) as him saying they were trying to get rid of him after his illness. Hence I'm happy to eat my words and belive him as I said I would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38580 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Maybe it's not showing up on tapatalk??? Surely it's easy for someone just to tell me what Jonas has said today ffs. Here you go. "Gutiérrez también habló sobre su situación con Newcastle. "No quiero decir si eran buenas o malas, no puedo juzgar," dijo el ex defensor de Real Mallorca. "Lo que puedo decir es que me dolió mucho cuando me dijeron que mira para otro equipo después de eso tuve la cirugía. Había estado en el club durante cinco años - que fue difícil". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 What Jonas has most recently said, comes accross to me (and everyone else it seems) as him saying they were trying to get rid of him after his illness. Hence I'm happy to eat my words and belive him as I said I would be. so just to clarify, Sky sports have finally got round to printing the same story, same words that was discussed in this very thread on 16th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1115 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 so just to clarify, Sky sports have finally got round to printing the same story, same words that was discussed in this very thread on 16th. Wrong as ever but don't let that stop you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4183 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Aye CT we all know you're not a fan of Jonas but theres no need for this, hes got cancer for crying out loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13988 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Wrong as ever but don't let that stop you. No, please do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38580 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Aye CT we all know you're not a fan of Jonas but theres no need for this, hes got cancer for crying out loudAnd , right there, is the point. Is it really worth point scoring over this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 And , right there, is the point. Is it really worth point scoring over this? Was it really worth every one fucking around all morning rather than just answering the simple question I asked. Point scoring ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30257 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Can't speak for anyone else but, from my point of view, it was definitely worth it, CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I have every sympathy with Jonas and his illness which will probably end his football career. At no time has Jonas blamed Newcastle for his treatment by the club. All he has said was it was neither good or bad. This is the final year of his contract and if he had played just one more game this would trigger a clause in his contract which would mean he would automatically get a new one. It was obvious that his time at Newcastle was close to the end and to keep him in some sort of condition they agreed he could go on loan to Norwich. Jonas is still a squad player but obviously because of the language problems he chose to have all his treatment in Argentina, which Newcastle agreed to and he will receive his full 60 grand a week up to the end of June this year. Whether fans believe Newcastle should or should not pay his medical bills is another matter. Clubs have players insured but that is usually only for injuries received while playing. Like everyone who can afford it, I would have thought players would have had their own private medical insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26192 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Was it really worth every one fucking around all morning rather than just answering the simple question I asked. Point scoring ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38580 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Was it really worth every one fucking around all morning rather than just answering the simple question I asked. Point scoring ffs! Were you right about the Shepherds and Halls, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26625 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 What a bunch of wankers. All CT wanted was for someone to answer his simple question. How hard was it to do? Sure, there was umpteen pages on it but come on, does he really have to read them again? The man's on a tight schedule here, there's something waiting in the oven and his camera's charging up as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38580 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Some people just want to watch the pie burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13815 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 All he wanted to do was talk about his precious club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38580 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26625 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 All he wanted to do was move the rose bush in the middle, push the daisies out wide and lay some new turf for fifty grand a year; Jonas Shane Roses Marveaux Daisies SBR-Charity Ashley-Genuis £50 Cherry-Tomato Budgie-RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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