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Stuff like this you should write fairy tales :lol:

 

If it happened today I would forecast another hung parliament. As for two years away I have no idea. All depends what shapes event over the next two years ( you should know this stuff).

 

We could be at war with Iran, the Euro Zone could be in tatters, red ed might get hoofed. Far too early to say.

So if there was an election today you forecast a hung parliament? Despite every poll showing double digit leads for labour? You are beyond deluded.

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They're terrified to say it officially :lol: But its what there policy is going to be as revealed by every politician that speaks about it, the latest being Angela Eagle last night.

 

Missed that. I've not watched question time for years.

 

I might vote for them next time around then.

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Very interesting article here for those genuinely interested in politics ;)

 

http://www.telegraph...he-economy.html

 

It is a good article, don't like Fraser much but I would listen to a party that cut taxes for working people as long as they didn't do the same for millionaires. He also fails to draw a distinction between monetary stimulus and fiscal stimulus.

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So it's election day and the contest will be largely fought by an undertaker who was selected because his father was murdered by the IRA in the 70's and the man who has been accused of the aforementioned father's murder.

 

Makes you proud of democracy.

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So it's election day and the contest will be largely fought by an undertaker who was selected because his father was murdered by the IRA in the 70's and the man who has been accused of the aforementioned father's murder.

 

Makes you proud of democracy.

 

What election's that?

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What election's that?

 

Mid-Ulster by election due to Martin McGuinness stepping down.

 

Is Mid-Ulster your constituency Ewerk? If so you voting murderer or son of someone who was enough of a dick he got murdered?

 

Neither. Sinn Fein are nailed on to retain the seat anyway.

 

It's sad all the unionist parties have united behind one candidate purely because his father was allegedly murdered by the SF candidate.

 

There are two other candidates but one of them is a school teacher while the other one is a socialist so not up to much.

 

Tempted to spoil my ballot paper or, more likely, I'll just not vote.

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Just vote for one of the other candidates, even if they have no chance it's better than spoiling a ballot. What even is the difference between the Unionist Parties anyhow?

 

I voted for Alliance last time (the only non-Unionist/Republican major party) and they ended up with 369 votes so didn't even manage to keep their deposit. It says a lot about the mentality of voters over here, it's a tribal thing.

 

The difference between the Unionist parties is getting less and less, the DUP are seen as the more hardline unionists and are now the dominant party among unionism so the UUP have tried to follow them in order to shore up their vote. Their decision to back a single candidate resulted in two UUP MLAs leaving and setting up their own party. After listening to what they had to say I'd gladly vote for either of them if they were standing but I get the feeling that I'd be very much in the minority.

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Chris Hunhe's wife found guilty of perverting the course of justice.

 

The whole 'nailing him' thing has sort of backfired then. Although her motives were clearly revenge rather than confessional I do feel a bit sorry for her after the Times journo who convinced her to dob him in will presumably get away scot free - and after getting her story, of course.

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Chris Hunhe's wife found guilty of perverting the course of justice.

 

The whole 'nailing him' thing has sort of backfired then. Although her motives were clearly revenge rather than confessional I do feel a bit sorry for her after the Times journo who convinced her to dob him in will presumably get away scot free - and after getting her story, of course.

 

But the journo wasnt anything to do with the actual offence. Putting a story into the papers isnt illegal, however distasteful the motives are. In the big scheme of things its something a lot of us would do, but if you're putting yourself up for public office then you shouldnt fuckin break the law, and if you do and it comes out via a bitter ex wife trying to stitch you up then dont lie your head off about it for years. A pair of complete fuckin twats, they deserve each other.

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But the journo wasnt anything to do with the actual offence. Putting a story into the papers isnt illegal, however distasteful the motives are. In the big scheme of things its something a lot of us would do, but if you're putting yourself up for public office then you shouldnt fuckin break the law, and if you do and it comes out via a bitter ex wife trying to stitch you up then dont lie your head off about it for years. A pair of complete fuckin twats, they deserve each other.

 

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Watchdog contradicts Cameron on impact of austerity on growth

 

 

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David Cameron has become involved in a dispute with the Office for Budget Responsibility about the impact of austerity measures on economic growth.

 

In a speech on the economy on Thursday, the prime minister said the independent watchdog had made it "absolutely clear" that spending cuts and tax rises were not responsible for the weak economy.

 

But the OBR said it had been arguing for years that this was an issue.

 

Labour said it was an "embarrassing rebuke" for the prime minister.

 

The BBC's political correspondent Chris Mason said the comments were difficult for Mr Cameron because they concerned the coalition's central economic message and came from an organisation which it had set up in 2010 to provide independent growth and borrowing forecasts.

 

'Widely held assumption'

 

Mr Cameron quoted the OBR in a major speech on the economy, in which he rejected calls for increased borrowing, insisting getting on top of the deficit was the "first essential step" for growth.

 

He said the OBR had made it clear that growth had been depressed by the legacy of the 2008 financial crisis, instability in the eurozone and a sharp rise in oil prices between 2010 and 2011.

 

The watchdog, he added, was "absolutely clear that the deficit reduction plan is not responsible, in fact, quite the opposite".

 

But the OBR's chairman, Robert Chote, has written to the prime ministerto take issue with his comments.

 

"For the avoidance of doubt, I think it is important to point out that every forecast published by the OBR since the June 2010 Budget has incorporated the widely held assumption that tax increases and spending cuts reduce economic growth in the short term," he wrote.

 

"To summarise, we believe that fiscal consolidation measures have reduced economic growth over the past couple of years."

 

But the OBR also said that it believed other factors, such as inflation, the weak global economy and the financial crisis, were "more likely explanations" for the fact that growth has been weaker than had been forecast at the end of 2010.

 

'Misleading'

 

A Downing Street spokesman said the OBR had pinpointed "external inflation shocks, the eurozone and financial sector difficulties as the reasons why their forecasts have come in lower than expected".

 

"That is precisely the point the prime minister was underlining," he added.

 

Labour's shadow chancellor Ed Balls said there was a debate to be had about the relative impact austerity had had on growth but David Cameron "must be living on another planet if he thinks spending cuts and tax rises have had no impact at all".

 

"This is another embarrassing rebuke for the prime minister, just 24 hours after his panicky and defensive speech on the economy," he added.

 

"Deep spending cuts and tax rises have reduced economic growth, as the OBR says, and so it was deeply misleading for David Cameron to claim otherwise."

'Face value'

But Lib Dem President Tim Farron, who is not a member of the government, said it was wrong for the prime minister to "overstate what the OBR is saying for political reasons".

 

"We have to accept what they say. We might not always agree with it, but the figures which the OBR put out have to be taken at face value," he told the BBC News Channel.

 

The government has been under increasing pressure over its economic strategy, after the economy contracted in the final three months of 2012 and the UK was stripped of its AAA credit rating last month.

 

Conservative MPs have called for tax cuts in the Budget later this month, while Lib Dem Business Secretary Vince Cable has urged ministers to relax the stance on borrowing to allow more targeted spending on capital projects such as construction and transport.

 

The government says the deficit has been reduced by a quarter since it came to power but Labour says the coalition's strategy has failed and a lack of growth over the last year has forced borrowing up again.

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But the journo wasnt anything to do with the actual offence. Putting a story into the papers isnt illegal, however distasteful the motives are. In the big scheme of things its something a lot of us would do, but if you're putting yourself up for public office then you shouldnt fuckin break the law, and if you do and it comes out via a bitter ex wife trying to stitch you up then dont lie your head off about it for years. A pair of complete fuckin twats, they deserve each other.

 

Oh yeah I know, I'm not saying she was. Typical journo's cunts trick though "oh yeah you'll be fine, just give us the story"

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