Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 TTIP anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38535 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Just read that Galloway link posted a page back, has that cunt got a permanent black eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8946 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Just read that Galloway link posted a page back, has that cunt got a permanent black eye? That's Racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38535 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Amended for bacon deniers. Just read that Galloway link posted a page back, has that cunt got a permanent BAME eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 UKIP have rejected Farage's resignation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 UKIP have rejected Farage's resignation. Of course they have, the fuckwits No one saw that coming, Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Just been reading about the Sally Bercow saga. Now there's a woman in the midst of a mid-life crisis http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/sally-bercows-marriage-to-commons-speaker-in-jeopardy-after-she-is-reportedly-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-his-cousin-10240247.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26144 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Fame hungry media whore. Even after having an affair with her husband's cousin she can't keep her mouth shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4183 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Made a mention of Boris' Zero hour contract "joke" earlier in facebook and someone has replied saying that people are fed up hearing about politics now and its time of "move on positively" with what we've got.Utterly baffling attitude from an NHS employee no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Fucking hell. I have to say Cameron's new cabinet has impressed me a little bit. Its clear you need to do time in Osborne's office if you want to get anywhere in the party but the people he has promoted are at least diverse background etc. A Tory unionist, a few birds and some ethnics. All very right-on until you actually read about their points of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Best prime minister........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19720 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 umunna chuks his name into the ring http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32706038?ocid=socialflow_twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12733 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Best prime minister........... Aye, can't whack a cabinet with a homophobic equality minister and a culture minister who wants to bring back hanging and the workhouses. Very progressive choices from our resident, chinless, lizard prick of a prime minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieMessiah 0 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Aye, can't whack a cabinet with a homophobic equality minister and a culture minister who wants to bring back hanging and the workhouses. Very progressive choices from our resident, chinless, lizard prick of a prime minister. You forgot to mention the bit about wanting to clip the BBC's wings. On the upside, at least we know that Cameron won't tolerate people rewriting their Wikipedia profiles. This is a government of high standards and even higher ideals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makom 0 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 OK, so the BBC has no experts - it's official. Here's their list of the 5 big things that weren't discussed in the election campaign, but that will need answers now.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32693640 In case you don't want to read, it's Heathrow, HS2, nuclear power, climate change and foreign intervention. Yet again, they've completely ignored the issues of boundary changes & Trident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makom 0 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Translation? For those of us who don't speak Gaelic..... And why the fuck are they wearing balaclavas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34158 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 They're gonna let IRISH people vote on important stuff like that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Paddy Power way in on the marriage referendum Fucking hell. That's a bit close to the knuckle, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makom 0 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) On the subject of UKIP, I was reading not long ago about the party in Finland that's been making great gains - it's all the same rhetoric and warped logic, banging on about immigrants and Europe in exactly the same way, blaming all the countries ills on them. The difference between Finland and here however, was that their stupid PR system meant that in the wake of the financial crisis they managed to get into power by going into coalition with the larger centre-right party. It was every bit a nonsensical protest vote as it was here. And unsurprisingly, once they failed to deliver on their promises because their policies made no logical or rational sense, they were voted out. I for one am thankful our system means we're not at risk of having to make the same mistakes, and we can just keep them out unless or until they can convince enough people they're worth a punt, or the two main parties between them can't come up with a simple majority. Edited May 12, 2015 by Mako Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3956 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Paddy Power way in on the marriage referendum [emoji38] To paraphrase the prison officer in McVicar - there's no puffs in the IRA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makom 0 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 For all the non-Irish speakers, it's a parody of an IRA slogan, "Our Day Will Come", apparently. Which I guess explains the balaclavas. It must be weird living in Ireland if you don't speak Irish. Actually, scratch that, it must be weird living in Ireland, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 On the subject of UKIP, I was reading not long ago about the party in Finland that's been making great gains - it's all the same rhetoric and warped logic, banging on about immigrants and Europe in exactly the same way, blaming all the countries ills on them. The difference between Finland and here however, was that their stupid PR system meant that in the wake of the financial crisis they managed to get into power by going into coalition with the larger centre-right party. It was every bit a nonsensical protest vote as it was here. And unsurprisingly, once they failed to deliver on their promises because their policies made no logical or rational sense, they were voted out. I for one am thankful our system means we're not at risk of having to make the same mistakes, and we can just keep them out unless or until they can convince enough people they're worth a punt, or the two main parties between them can't come up with a simple majority. That's worked in our favour this time but could very easily fail to do so in future. I think PR is a truer statement of democratic intention, and while I consider the whole thing to be a bit of a sham, I feel that if we're going to claim to be democrats, we should have the balls to accept what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makom 0 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 PR isn't democracy, it's just an illusion of fairness which leads to illogical and unsustainable outcomes. If we had PR, right now, the country would be governed by a Tory/UKIP coalition, with half its MPs wanting out of Europe, and half wanting to stay in. Worse, we'd have an EU referendum where the prime minister wanted us to say no/in, and the deputy prime minister wanted us to say yes/out. Meanwhile, on the opposition benches, you'd have almost unanimous support for the idea that we should stay in, or at the very least, not be wasting our time with a referendum at this point in the recovery. It's hard to come up with any argument that this outcome represented the democratic will of the people in 2015 any more than a narrow Tory majority govt does. Even worse outcomes have been seen across Europe, where extremists and narrow interest parties rule the roost in times when there is real indecision in the electorate, as there always is in times of recession or mass migration. The real truth about multi-party democracy is that that majority always loses. The only alternative to that is a one party state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makom 0 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 If I had my way, coalition government would be banned as inherently undemocratic. I personally never bought the argument that 'nobody won' was the legitimate will of the people in expressed in 2010. If we must have fixed term parliaments, then it should be part of that law that the party with the most votes must either form a minority government, and therefore only pass laws that they can get cross party support for, or there should be a return to the previous government for a period of a year before another election is held, and if necessary, repeat that cycle until the next majority government emerges to serve another 5 years. Not only would that be more democratic, as the party in power would always have a clearly expressed mandate (their manifesto), it would also on a practical level force parties to differentiate themselves, lest they become bankrupt after having to fight too many campaigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 PR isn't democracy, it's just an illusion of fairness which leads to illogical and unsustainable outcomes. If we had PR, right now, the country would be governed by a Tory/UKIP coalition, with half its MPs wanting out of Europe, and half wanting to stay in. Worse, we'd have an EU referendum where the prime minister wanted us to say no/in, and the deputy prime minister wanted us to say yes/out. Meanwhile, on the opposition benches, you'd have almost unanimous support for the idea that we should stay in, or at the very least, not be wasting our time with a referendum at this point in the recovery. It's hard to come up with any argument that this outcome represented the democratic will of the people in 2015 any more than a narrow Tory majority govt does. Even worse outcomes have been seen across Europe, where extremists and narrow interest parties rule the roost in times when there is real indecision in the electorate, as there always is in times of recession or mass migration. The real truth about multi-party democracy is that that majority always loses. The only alternative to that is a one party state. I would accept a one party state. At least then we could all stop pretending that any of this is democratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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