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1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

I've got a new theory that every time the Johnson Tories need someone to go on telly to be used as a punching bag - so after they've lost a big vote, or they've made some sort of gaffe - they ALWAYS put a non-white face out there. 

 

Kwasi Kwarteng

Rishi Sunak

Nadhim Zahawi

James Cleverley (he's chairman so maybe not as strong an argument here). 

 

Keep an eye on it. These lads get sent out to defend the indefensible and talk absolute horseshit every time. 

 

One of the journos tweeted yesterday that it was Raab who was supposed to be doing the sofas yesterday morning. They'd no idea why the late change happened but this could be it. I saw Cleverly on BBC breakfast then heard him on 5 live. He also did R4 Today, GMB & LBC. I think after a that he'd had enough and couldn't be arsed with Sky :lol:

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

I saw him, he got his arse handed to him. That's what I'm talking about motherfucker. Kwasi is next on the rota, I reckon. 

Nah, they don't think he's had enough, they've put him up on Politics Live.

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21 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

 

One of the journos tweeted yesterday that it was Raab who was supposed to be doing the sofas yesterday morning. They'd no idea why the late change happened but this could be it. I saw Cleverly on BBC breakfast then heard him on 5 live. He also did R4 Today, GMB & LBC. I think after a that he'd had enough and couldn't be arsed with Sky :lol:

 

 

I genuinely can't think of a worse person to put out there than Dominic Raab, there's literally nothing going on between the ears. 

Maybe that's what they wanted? Someone to go out and repeat his lines and offer zero else.

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This Labour plan for nationalisation is such bollocks.

‘It’s going to involve a fuck load of borrowing but it will be an asset on the country’s balance sheet.‘

That’s okay if that asset is going to generate a profit or can be sold on at a later stage. Labour won’t admit to doing either of those things. It’s a nonsense and it’s going to hurt them. Worst of all it’s nationalising a lot of things that don’t need to be nationalised.

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1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

I saw him, he got his arse handed to him. That's what I'm talking about motherfucker. Kwasi is next on the rota, I reckon. 

He’s got his arse handed to him again by lying about the deficit.

Say what you want about Neil’s personal politics but he enjoys going after politicians of all colours.

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5 minutes ago, ewerk said:

He’s got his arse handed to him again by lying about the deficit.

Say what you want about Neil’s personal politics but he enjoys going after politicians of all colours.

Especially the browns though, AMIRITE? High five! 

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21 minutes ago, ewerk said:

This Labour plan for nationalisation is such bollocks.

‘It’s going to involve a fuck load of borrowing but it will be an asset on the country’s balance sheet.‘

That’s okay if that asset is going to generate a profit or can be sold on at a later stage. Labour won’t admit to doing either of those things. It’s a nonsense and it’s going to hurt them. Worst of all it’s nationalising a lot of things that don’t need to be nationalised.

 

It took me until I was 30 to realise ideologies on either side of the political spectrum are bollocks. What we need is some good, common sense, middle ground pragmatism. If there's good reason to renationalise something, do it. Otherwise just leave it alone ffs and spend the money on something productive.

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2 hours ago, ewerk said:

This Labour plan for nationalisation is such bollocks.

‘It’s going to involve a fuck load of borrowing but it will be an asset on the country’s balance sheet.‘

That’s okay if that asset is going to generate a profit or can be sold on at a later stage. Labour won’t admit to doing either of those things. It’s a nonsense and it’s going to hurt them. Worst of all it’s nationalising a lot of things that don’t need to be nationalised.

 

Why cant the asset be procured, financed through alternative means of state generated income, and then be operated at a lower price for consumers, thus benefiting society in general. The NHS doesnt make a profit and yet we seem to value that.

 

Whether it's a priority or not is up for debate and i would agree that it probably isn't and is solely an ideological move. But arguing that it doesn't make sense because it wouldn't be profitable doesn't seem to scan for me.

 

The government isn't, and shouldn't ever be, a business.

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1 minute ago, Rayvin said:

 

Why cant the asset be procured, financed through alternative means of state generated income, and then be operated at a lower price for consumers, thus benefiting society in general. The NHS doesnt make a profit and yet we seem to value that.

 

Whether it's a priority or not is up for debate and i would agree that it probably isn't and is solely an ideological move. But arguing that it doesn't make sense because it wouldn't be profitable doesn't seem to scan for me.

 

The government isn't, and shouldn't ever be, a business.

'Alternative means of state generated income' either means you cut something else or raise taxes. The scheme has been estimated to cost £193bn. That's an awful lot of money whatever way you look at it. The profits in these industries aren't huge when you look at it per capita. Would it improve society much in general if the water companies, electricity networks and Royal Mail were nationalised? Probably not.

Financially my point is that if I take finance to buy a house then I have the option to sell that house again and receive the proceeds of sale. If I take out a loan in order to buy a van I need for work then I receive the profits from the work that van does. Labour don't want these things to produce profits, nor do they wish to ever sell them so their presence on the balance sheet is essentially misleading.

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16 minutes ago, ewerk said:

'Alternative means of state generated income' either means you cut something else or raise taxes. The scheme has been estimated to cost £193bn. That's an awful lot of money whatever way you look at it. The profits in these industries aren't huge when you look at it per capita. Would it improve society much in general if the water companies, electricity networks and Royal Mail were nationalised? Probably not.

Financially my point is that if I take finance to buy a house then I have the option to sell that house again and receive the proceeds of sale. If I take out a loan in order to buy a van I need for work then I receive the profits from the work that van does. Labour don't want these things to produce profits, nor do they wish to ever sell them so their presence on the balance sheet is essentially misleading.

 

Given the cost you've cited in particular, I think that's a fair point. I agree.

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31 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

 

The government isn't, and shouldn't ever be, a business.

I wish someone had told the rancid cunts in charge over the last decade this, as they’ve been systematically rinsing the country for their personal gain. 
 

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1 hour ago, Gemmill said:
Drunk and straight up lying. Ladies and Gentlemen..... The Prime Minister. 

He's really electrified the crowd there. He seems to completely ignore the extra paperwork involved in importing goods from GB to NI. I know that a lot of suppliers simply aren't going to bother supplying NI due to the extra hassle.

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1 hour ago, Ant said:

 

 

:lol: i literally got an email on Tuesday morning as a "heads up" for stuff about a system i might have to design around board control posts and the fuck load of work that may now be required that wasn't previously  (as in as late as deadline day last week)

the scope for what would be in control is everything from frozen/chilled and ambient product ranges + high risk food of non animal origin, plus livestock pets horses, germplasm , by products, plant materials, timber  etc

 

 

 

 

“Germplasm”, whatever the fuck that is, sounds like a very niche porn category. 

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