Gemmill 34141 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Meenzer said: I guess it's one of those things that takes a while to turn around, so you're seeing the delayed impact of what happened after 1997, a bit like Trump being able to take credit for the economic upturn that's down to the foundations laid by Obama. I could, of course, be talking out of my arse. This was my interpretation too. So I'm guessing we're both right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17523 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Meenzer said: I guess it's one of those things that takes a while to turn around, so you're seeing the delayed impact of what happened after 1997, a bit like Trump being able to take credit for the economic upturn that's down to the foundations laid by Obama. I could, of course, be talking out of my arse. Corbyn has literally promised to house all rough sleepers within a week of victory hasn't he? Including using Chequers, because a mansion in the depths of Norfolk is definitely a feasible solution. Anecdotally homelessness is much worse than I've ever seen it. Always been a n issue in London and some other cities, but now Newcastle is a mess. The coast too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4948 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, Gemmill said: This was my interpretation too. So I'm guessing we're both right. Not sure. 8 years is a long time even for a time delay. It would explain the 2008-2010 thing maybe, but the 8 years under New Labour, no way. The suddenness with which it turns down as well, strongly suggests that either a new definition was introduced as Renton says, or that they introduced a policy that quickly and effectively started resolving the issue. If it was a slow burner kind, I don't think it would start dropping so suddenly. I reckon no one in Labour was paying any attention to it until around 2005 when they realised it was soaring, maybe following some new research, and then they tried to knock it on the head. If it's a time delay issue spanning nearly a decade, the Tories could simply turn around and say that the effects of the financial crisis are still being felt and that's what is pushing the numbers up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4948 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, Renton said: Anecdotally homelessness is much worse than I've ever seen it. Always been a n issue in London and some other cities, but now Newcastle is a mess. The coast too. Same view - it's actually very noticeable, how much worse it has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gemmill 34141 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Got the metro to Whitley the other day and there were people sleeping on the metro bridge in the station. And I started working in the middle of town almost exactly a year ago. Wander around every lunchtime and the number of people sleeping rough is DEFINITELY up noticeably on last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34141 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13921 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Who could possibly have guessed that a Rees-Mogg would turn out to be a Tory after all? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38501 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 The crack at the Rees Mogg ancestral home- “ Come now Annunziata, you’ve had your silly fun, now come back to the Party and let Jacob get on with his serious work.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4948 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/04/bbc-impartiality-precious-protect-election-coverage BBC trying to defend itself. I don’t necessarily subscribe to the view that if we get complaints from both sides, we are doing something right – though we do receive roughly equal volumes of audience feedback suggesting we favour opposite sides of the political spectrum. And to those who have suggested we are somehow cowed or unconfident, let me assure you – we are not. Will believe that last statement when we see it. EDIT - also, what the fuck is the one before it. "I don't necessarily believe this but y'know, if you wanted to justify our bullshit and had no critical thinking skills, you could do so like this..." Fuck off. Edited December 5, 2019 by Rayvin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17523 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I don't usually subscribe to the viewpoint that Sunderland is a shit hole, but y'know, Sunderland is a bit of a shit hole isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34141 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Fair play to Ryvita-Heed. This shouldn't be the last time he does it though. They should just empty chair him next week and do more of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26107 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 He's also refusing to do an ITV debate. I don’t think a PM has ever gone so out of their way to avoid scrutiny as he has. An absolute coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4948 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Nice, our (collectively, across the country) pressure on the BBC to do it's fucking job is actually yielding some results. Let's see if it works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26107 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17523 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Gemmill said: Fair play to Ryvita-Heed. This shouldn't be the last time he does it though. They should just empty chair him next week and do more of it. Oof. Was that broadcast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34141 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Renton said: Oof. Was that broadcast? Yep, went out at the end of the Farage interview last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 There really not much the Beeb can do if Johnson bottles it other than empty chair him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30209 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Well, there’s either that or just forgetting about it and continuing their overwhelming bias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26107 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 You can empty chair someone in a panel setting but to do it in a one on one interview wouldn't make great TV. It would of course make a point but as Neil said, Johnson is under no obligation to appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 7080 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 class that by neil last night. sadly though would've been missed by the profoundly stupid who are about to put their cross next to a tory mp's name for the first time. doubtless though these same people would've tuned in too see johnson being interviewed by a couple of fellow halfwits, one of who is famous for being a mate of gordon the fucking gopher and the other a stupid tart who may or may not have tongued baby spice. the country is fucked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30209 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 People in food banks saying they’ll vote for Johnson. I’m almost at the stage where I think they deserve what’s coming to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 7080 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alex said: People in food banks saying they’ll vote for Johnson. I’m almost at the stage where I think they deserve what’s coming to them. aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Johnson confirms he isn't doing Andew Neil interview. Senior Con source: “The public are fed up with interviews that are all about the interviewer and endless interruptions. The format is tired and broken and needs to change if it is to start engaging and informing the public again.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19714 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 these fuckers are actually going to win - what is wrong with this country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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