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Leadbeater is fucking RIPPED btw. Proper defined shoulders and lady biceps, no wonder she was standing down that brummie cunt activist last week, she would have fucking laced him.

 

I reckon Quiff is gonna changes his colours here. She looks crossfit strong to me, Quiffy. 

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7 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

 

Also shoutout to those that switched. 

It’s beyond my comprehension how Lab and Lib Dem cannot see the ONLY way to fuck off the tories is to get out of each other’s way. Do it for one election only, bring in PR and every vote then counts and the tories are fucked !!!

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Aye, hope for pragmatism at the next GE. It's mental that Labour sneaked a win with Galloway taking 21% of the vote. Suggestions are they made some gains in Tory areas. Thanks Matt Hancock. 

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What a massive cunt George Galloway is. Such a committed socialist that he runs for a seat he knows he has no hope of winning purely to try and enable the Tories to get in.

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Raab doesn't have much of a majority to play with iirc. 

 

Anyway, things are not great for Labour at the minute, but there are also signs that the Tory sleaze is finally starting to catch up with them. 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, ewerk said:

What a massive cunt George Galloway is. Such a committed socialist that he runs for a seat he knows he has no hope of winning purely to try and enable the Tories to get in.

Stirs up hatred for personal gain basically 

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24 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Raab doesn't have much of a majority to play with iirc. 

 

Anyway, things are not great for Labour at the minute, but there are also signs that the Tory sleaze is finally starting to catch up with them. 

 

 

Well hopefully this means we have hit the low water mark for Labour at HArtlepool and the tide will turn. Absolutely need a tactical alliance with LD and Greens though. Does anybosy know what the feeling is with the public towards PR btw? COuld the progressive parties get it over the line or are people still too wedded to FptP? The AV referendum was a disaster after all. 

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6 minutes ago, Alex said:

Stirs up hatred for personal gain basically 

He's such a fucking boring old cunt in front of the camera too. The only time he's been box office was when he went over to America and rinsed one of their committees. 

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54% sounds about the size of the overall progressive majority that this country has.

 

We are crying out for PR as a nation - at that point all the stupid petty divisive nonsense between the left, the left of centre and the centre can transform into robust and useful debate without offering landslides to the far fucking right.

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There's not a lot of margin for error on that though - 54% means you'd need basically everyone to vote for an agreed party in their local area. It would be an enormous achievement for political strategists, and frankly, if it's going to happen, they should start building up for it now. Not just hamfistedly pull it together later on.

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1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

He's such a fucking boring old cunt in front of the camera too. The only time he's been box office was when he went over to America and rinsed one of their committees. 

Just as well he’s lacking in charisma tbh

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7 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

54% sounds about the size of the overall progressive majority that this country has.

 

We are crying out for PR as a nation - at that point all the stupid petty divisive nonsense between the left, the left of centre and the centre can transform into robust and useful debate without offering landslides to the far fucking right.

 

Doesn't appear to be that split between partisan line, the data suggests that all people form all regions want PR. This is massively encouraging because 10 years ago the large majority of people outright rejected PR.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

There's not a lot of margin for error on that though - 54% means you'd need basically everyone to vote for an agreed party in their local area. It would be an enormous achievement for political strategists, and frankly, if it's going to happen, they should start building up for it now. Not just hamfistedly pull it together later on.

I'd be amazed if 54% of the public knew what a PR electoral system was. The figures would change a fair bit in the run up to any referendum. Ideally it would be scheduled as a standalone referendum rather than tagged on to local elections as a low turnout would certainly help the chances of success.

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1 minute ago, ewerk said:

I'd be amazed if 54% of the public knew what a PR electoral system was. The figures would change a fair bit in the run up to any referendum. Ideally it would be scheduled as a standalone referendum rather than tagged on to local elections as a low turnout would certainly help the chances of success.

 

The "Don't know" figure there is 9%, rising to  31% if you include "neither support nor oppose". Of course, people could be lying but I'm not sure why that would massively favour the PR option (depending on the wording of the question). 

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