Politics

[Renton 17744]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

They're getting a rinsing on tomorrow's front pages. 

 

This sums it up nicely.

 

 

 

[Rayvin 4964]

Have to say mind, the Daily Mail comment section is, dare I say it, starting to see the light. Lots of upvotes for the 'fuck Brexit' side.

 

Still plenty of the gut feelers on the other side waxing lyrical about the nonsense that they think they voted for, but I've not seen the Mail quite so split on this at any point.

 

Funny how all these people didn't care if others lost their jobs, if it made people's lives harder, until it started to affect them. Selfish fucking morons. I still remember after the 2019 vote when the BBC or whoever it was went around asking people what the values were that prompted them to vote in the way they did, and generation baby boomer was coming in with "I deserve this, I only care about me, I want I want I want, Me, Me, Me" and the 'snowflake' millennials/Zoomers were saying "we care about our communities and giving people a fair chance at life, I vote for what's good for society in general".

 

Far better stock than their parents and grandparents (in the main). The thing that galls me more than anything is that the boomers will never process or confront that this colossal fuck up is on them, and that their extravagance, privilege and easy living for decades before was not 'earned'. They were just fucking lucky to live through a prosperous era. 

[Rayvin 4964]

Just thinking that through by the way, I joined the workforce full time in 2008, right at the start of the credit crunch or whatever it was. Since about a year or two after that point, I've had the Tories hammering wages, growth and living standards - and now will have another two decades of falling prospects irrespective of who is in charge, thanks to this fucking political party. So that's 30 years of my working life that has been fucked by the Tories. 30 fucking years.

 

Obviously I'm very aware that it's not just about me and this goes for everyone but the timing seems quite neat in my case. 

 

Just fuck all of them. And the boomers wonder why there's no hope for the future in younger generations. You burned the future to the ground you fuckers.

[NJS 3977]

31 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Have to say mind, the Daily Mail comment section is, dare I say it, starting to see the light. Lots of upvotes for the 'fuck Brexit' side.

 

Still plenty of the gut feelers on the other side waxing lyrical about the nonsense that they think they voted for, but I've not seen the Mail quite so split on this at any point.

 

Funny how all these people didn't care if others lost their jobs, if it made people's lives harder, until it started to affect them. Selfish fucking morons. I still remember after the 2019 vote when the BBC or whoever it was went around asking people what the values were that prompted them to vote in the way they did, and generation baby boomer was coming in with "I deserve this, I only care about me, I want I want I want, Me, Me, Me" and the 'snowflake' millennials/Zoomers were saying "we care about our communities and giving people a fair chance at life, I vote for what's good for society in general".

 

Far better stock than their parents and grandparents (in the main). The thing that galls me more than anything is that the boomers will never process or confront that this colossal fuck up is on them, and that their extravagance, privilege and easy living for decades before was not 'earned'. They were just fucking lucky to live through a prosperous era. 

What makes it worse is that the fuck you attitude applies to their kids and grandkids as well as everyone else's. 

 

Also, unfortunately it isn't a myth that people drift rightwards as they get older so the idea that the future is brighter from that angle isn't guaranteed. 

[Alex 30372]

59 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Have to say mind, the Daily Mail comment section is, dare I say it, starting to see the light. Lots of upvotes for the 'fuck Brexit' side.

 

Still plenty of the gut feelers on the other side waxing lyrical about the nonsense that they think they voted for, but I've not seen the Mail quite so split on this at any point.

 

Funny how all these people didn't care if others lost their jobs, if it made people's lives harder, until it started to affect them. Selfish fucking morons. I still remember after the 2019 vote when the BBC or whoever it was went around asking people what the values were that prompted them to vote in the way they did, and generation baby boomer was coming in with "I deserve this, I only care about me, I want I want I want, Me, Me, Me" and the 'snowflake' millennials/Zoomers were saying "we care about our communities and giving people a fair chance at life, I vote for what's good for society in general".

 

Far better stock than their parents and grandparents (in the main). The thing that galls me more than anything is that the boomers will never process or confront that this colossal fuck up is on them, and that their extravagance, privilege and easy living for decades before was not 'earned'. They were just fucking lucky to live through a prosperous era. 

Aye, a prosperous era thanks to being in the EU as well 

[Gemmill 34413]

The IFS has rinsed them this morning. Referring to a series of own goals by the Conservative government going right back to Osborne in 2010, and including the absolutely terrible Brexit that's been delivered. 

[Renton 17744]

32 minutes ago, NJS said:

Also, unfortunately it isn't a myth that people drift rightwards as they get older

 

You ae a prime example of this.

 

[Gemmill 34413]

Those own goals in full:

 

[Renton 17744]

1 hour ago, Rayvin said:

Have to say mind, the Daily Mail comment section is, dare I say it, starting to see the light. Lots of upvotes for the 'fuck Brexit' side.

 

Still plenty of the gut feelers on the other side waxing lyrical about the nonsense that they think they voted for, but I've not seen the Mail quite so split on this at any point.

 

Funny how all these people didn't care if others lost their jobs, if it made people's lives harder, until it started to affect them. Selfish fucking morons. I still remember after the 2019 vote when the BBC or whoever it was went around asking people what the values were that prompted them to vote in the way they did, and generation baby boomer was coming in with "I deserve this, I only care about me, I want I want I want, Me, Me, Me" and the 'snowflake' millennials/Zoomers were saying "we care about our communities and giving people a fair chance at life, I vote for what's good for society in general".

 

Far better stock than their parents and grandparents (in the main). The thing that galls me more than anything is that the boomers will never process or confront that this colossal fuck up is on them, and that their extravagance, privilege and easy living for decades before was not 'earned'. They were just fucking lucky to live through a prosperous era. 

 

I think there is an element of truth in this but as always I'd want to avoid generalising and sterotyping. None of this was true for my Dad, for instance. He was a socialist to his core and I think this actually hindered him in his career, he was very intelligent but never reached his potential because he wasn't motivated in personal gain. (Edit: although on reflection he was part of the "silent generation", not a boomer). 

 

Also I am always acutely aware that human nature doesn't really change between generations or between groups closely aligned geographically, for instance. Which is why the belief that mackem's have they are morally superior or "classier" is not just laughable but risible. It's also a sobering thought to think if things had been different we could have been mackems. But we're not, so at least there's that to cheer us up.

 

Edited November 18, 2022 by Renton

[Rayvin 4964]

6 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

I think there is an element of truth in this but as always I'd want to avoid generalising and sterotyping. None of this was true for my Dad, for instance. He was a socialist to his core and I think this actually hindered him in his career, he was very intelligent but never reached his potential because he wasn't motivated in personal gain. (Edit: although on reflection he was part of the "silent generation", not a boomer). 

 

Also I am always acutely aware that human nature doesn't really change between generations or between groups closely aligned geographically, for instance. Which is why the belief that mackem's have they are morally superior or "classier" is not just laughable but risible. It's also a sobering thought to think if things had been different we could have been mackems. But we're not, so at least there's that to cheer us up.

 

 

Was more of a rant than a balanced assessment tbf but a rant generally borne out of Boomers telling me how worthless younger generations are. My dad is also a socialist btw - so I agree, it's a generalisation.

 

Let's nuance it and just say we all know the specific people I'm referring to.

 

 

 

[Gemmill 34413]

Are you wankers slagging my mam off again?

[Renton 17744]

3 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Are you wankers slagging my mam off again?

 

Your Mam and Fish's sister. Together. THINK ABOUT THAT. 

[Gemmill 34413]

2 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Your Mam and Fish's sister. Together. THINK ABOUT THAT. 

 

 

[The Fish 8989]

My sister is one of those voters that picked her side and will vote that way until she dies. She's stubborn yet oddly averse to sticking to a diet or exercise regime...

[Gemmill 34413]

She's been sticking to a calorie surplus Dave. 

[Toonpack 6844]

7 minutes ago, The Fish said:

My sister is one of those voters that picked her side and will vote that way until she dies. She's stubborn yet oddly averse to sticking to a diet or exercise regime...

 

Well if she eats it, the poor can't get it

[The Fish 8989]

1 hour ago, Toonpack said:

 

Well if she eats it, the poor can't get it

She's a labour voter in Blyth. 

 

So stick that up yer pooper.

[The Fish 8989]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

She's been sticking to a calorie surplus Dave. 

For. Decades. 

 

She's currently trying to buy the affection of my son. I'm not having her anywhere near him. She sits down without double checking and we'd have to send in a cave rescue team for the poor fucker. 

[Toonpack 6844]

1 hour ago, The Fish said:

She's a labour voter in Blyth. 

 

So stick that up yer pooper.

 

Point stands, irrespective of political leaning

[ewerk 26282]

Obviously Eton is a breeding ground for cunts but platforming Nigel Farage? FFS.

[Howmanheyman 26768]

46 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Obviously Eton is a breeding ground for cunts but platforming Nigel Farage? FFS.

 

Burn the cunt down tbh.

[Rayvin 4964]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/18/keir-starmer-i-kissed-a-tory-and-not-ashamed-labour

 

Fuck me. I try to ignore this stuff from Starmer, I really do. "I have friends who are Tories, and long may that continue". Just... what?? So when you look for friends, you distinctly look for people whose worldview is an anathema to decency? I am friends with zero Tories, and I would never date one - not even because I'd choose not to be, but as someone politically engaged I can tell you right now it would be fucking impossible. It's not a difference of opinion mate, it's an entire worldview. It's not that we all want the same things and disagree about how to get it, it's that one side want a stable and prosperous country in which all its people can share, and the other side want to siphon everything into their own pockets and those of their mates, while simultaneously letting themselves be weaponised against the nation by hostile foreign powers.

 

There should be precisely zero Tories in a patriotic nation that cares about its people and puts the national interest first.

[Monkeys Fist 38733]

12 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/18/keir-starmer-i-kissed-a-tory-and-not-ashamed-labour

 

Fuck me. I try to ignore this stuff from Starmer, I really do. "I have friends who are Tories, and long may that continue". Just... what?? So when you look for friends, you distinctly look for people whose worldview is an anathema to decency? I am friends with zero Tories, and I would never date one - not even because I'd choose not to be, but as someone politically engaged I can tell you right now it would be fucking impossible. It's not a difference of opinion mate, it's an entire worldview. It's not that we all want the same things and disagree about how to get it, it's that one side want a stable and prosperous country in which all its people can share, and the other side want to siphon everything into their own pockets and those of their mates, while simultaneously letting themselves be weaponised against the nation by hostile foreign powers.

 

There should be precisely zero Tories in a patriotic nation that cares about its people and puts the national interest first.

Tbf, posh blart is usually outrageously filthy. 
 

 

 

 

So I’m told 

[Rayvin 4964]

Then they need to practice better hygiene ffs.

[Gemmill 34413]

A bloke who wants to be Prime Minister can't really be going around telling people he hates Tories and if they know what's right they'd cut Tories out of their lives entirely.

That's for the Laura Pidcocks of this world and we all know how well that worked out.