Dr Gloom 19715 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Looks like the Tories are going to beat the shit out of the libdems in their southwest heartland. Clegg getting punished for getting to bed with the Tories by former Libdem voters voting ... Tory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26109 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Please don't let it down to the DUP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonasjuice 0 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I fucking despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 How do you mean? They seem to be getting the kicking they have long been predicted to get. The pattern not the size. Too early to tell really but seems to be a mix of UKIP and Tory when I thought they had lost their popularity for being too close to the Tories. The criticism I kept hearing of Clegg was stuff like tuition fees. How have voters who have left the centre position because 'Clegg betrayed them' gone to the far right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Looks like the Tories are going to beat the shit out of the libdems in their southwest heartland. Clegg getting punished for getting to bed with the Tories by former Libdem voters voting ... Tory.This! I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 How do you mean? They seem to be getting the kicking they have long been predicted to get.If you're turned off by lib dems doing a deal with the Tories you don't change your vote to get the Tories or ukip in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 The pattern not the size. Too early to tell really but seems to be a mix of UKIP and Tory when I thought they had lost their popularity for being too close to the Tories. The criticism I kept hearing of Clegg was stuff like tuition fees. How have voters who have left the centre position because 'Clegg betrayed them' gone to the far right? I think a lot of average folk quite like ukip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26109 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Please don't let it down to the DUP. Sweet fucking Jesus, Sammy Wilson sticks a gun to the Tories head before he know whether he has a gun, Someone shoot him now. Fuck it, stick with tradition and cover him in semtex. Edited May 7, 2015 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 If you're turned off by lib dems doing a deal with the Tories you don't change your vote to get the Tories or ukip in. I disagree, lib Dems have often been a protest vote or alternative to the big two. UKIP now look to be filling that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14485 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 If you're turned off by lib dems doing a deal with the Tories you don't change your vote to get the Tories or ukip in. You do if you're a person who wouldnt vote Labour even if your mum was standing for them....suppose its just a different side of the coin from up north where huge swathes of the electorate wouldnt go near anyone blue.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19715 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 The pattern not the size. Too early to tell really but seems to be a mix of UKIP and Tory when I thought they had lost their popularity for being too close to the Tories. The criticism I kept hearing of Clegg was stuff like tuition fees. How have voters who have left the centre position because 'Clegg betrayed them' gone to the far right? Ukip are picking up a lot of the disgruntled working class labour vote. I don't get it either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 It's going to be a right fucking pigs ear if Labour with 239 votes end up getting in while the Tories have 300 plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Not surprised you disagree. Or that you do so with a load of old bollocks. Lib dems are a liberal progressive party. Ukip are a conservative regressive party. Anyone making that switch is a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Don't understand why, the Tories hate them. They want to scrap the license fee and give a free reign to Murdoch. I know it's fashionable on alternative website to cast the BBC as pure establishment but most Tories hate the idea of a nationalised broadcaster. Only cause them and their friends see it as a money making scam - global audience - Eng speaking. That trumps whatever 'wormtongue' favours it might do them. The back catalog alone must be worth a billion. Glasgow Uni media Group did brilliant work on the BBC bias about 20 years ago. Edited May 7, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonasjuice 0 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 This! I don't get it. Majority of voters not particularly interested in politics vote base on how well the leaders come across to them in the small soundbites/headlines rather than their actual policies/philosophies, which can be easiliy influenced by media/'narrative'. Think LibDems gained a lot last time due to Clegg being seen as a fresh faced alternative rather than any actual improvement in Lib policies, and now he's seen as a weak willed lying turncoat, they're done with him and move onto whoever tick's their big brother popularity box, irrelevant to how close their new choice matches the policies they voted for last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19715 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 It's going to be a right fucking pigs ear if Labour with 239 votes end up getting in while the Tories have 300 plus. Centre-left and left leaning parties will have a majority if the libdems don't do a deal with the Tories again. It's not too late for clegg to save his career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13804 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Range Rovers AOTS, with the odd wanker in a taxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19715 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Majority of voters not particularly interested in politics vote base on how well the leaders come across to them in the small soundbites/headlines rather than their actual policies/philosophies, which can be easiliy influenced by media/'narrative'. Think LibDems gained a lot last time due to Clegg being seen as a fresh faced alternative rather than any actual improvement in Lib policies, and now he's seen as a weak willed lying turncoat, they're done with him and move onto whoever tick's their big brother popularity box, irrelevant to how close their new choice matches the policies they voted for last time. Sadly this is where labour got it wrong. Miliband doesn't look or sound like a statesman. Apparently how you look while eating a bacon sandwhich and a silly voice is enough to keep you out of office today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonasjuice 0 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Can I ask a stupid question? What happens if somehow Lab/SNP/LIbDem form a coalition, but Clegg loses his seat? Could he still lead the party in that coalition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14485 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Centre-left and left leaning parties will have a majority if the libdems don't do a deal with the Tories again. It's not too late for clegg to save his career! If the exit polls are correct and Labour go back on everything theyve said and get into bed with the SNP + the lib dems its 307 for them v 316 for the tories so thats not really plausible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Sadly this is where labour got it wrong. Miliband doesn't look or sound like a statesman. Apparently how you look while eating a bacon sandwhich and a silly voice is enough to keep you out of office today. Most people can't name 3 policies after weeks of campaigns and as mentioned will just vote for someone who 'looks right'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14485 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Close Follow Nate SilverVerified account@NateSilver538 Exit polls have been highly accurate in every recent election except 1992, 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2010. Reply Retweet Favourite More Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Close 45] FollowNate SilverVerified account@NateSilver538 Exit polls have been highly accurate in every recent election except 1992, 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2010. Reply Retweet Favourite More the exit poll was spot on in 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19715 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 If the exit polls are correct and Labour go back on everything theyve said and get into bed with the SNP + the lib dems its 307 for them v 316 for the tories so thats not really plausible... Ah shite. So my maths is still rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 You do if you're a person who wouldnt vote Labour even if your mum was standing for them....suppose its just a different side of the coin from up north where huge swathes of the electorate wouldnt go near anyone blue.. So therefore what is causing the shift? To that constituency of voter why swing back to the Tories given what the LibDems have done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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