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[Monkeys Fist 38556]

1 hour ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

I volunteer with my regiments peer support group and we have gone all hands to the pump because of the way veterans, especially, but not only, those dealing with mental issues, are reacting to this. The guys who lost limbs, friends or just a little part of their pre combat minds are suffering massively.

 

Hats off to you mate. 
 

 

[Renton 17610]

4 minutes ago, Alex said:

What was a realistic end game here though? I guess the only real alternative was staying indefinitely. I’m not suggesting this has been done well in any way, shape or form but it does seem to me almost anything would’ve been delaying the inevitable. The repatriation talk is pretty pathetic though. How are you supposed to these people out now? 

 

As we all knew at the time, there never was one. Bush just needed to do something, anything, in response to 9/11 for domestic reasons. I guess eliminating Bin Laden was an achievable outcome. Pity the bounty on his head amounted to trillions of dollars spent, thousands of lives lost, a failed state, and ultimately even more problems down the line. 

[Howmanheyman 26605]

I never really understood the reason why we went into Iraq, the (WMD) time, just like I never understood the reason to go into Afghanistan. Surely history would've told you going into Afghanistan would've been 'problematic'. Britain, France, in the past but now just the yanks, Israel and us just seem to enjoy kicking wasps nests repeatedly and doubling down when they get the odd wasp sting. (It probably doesn't help I've recently read the depressing and horrifying 'The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East' by Robert Fisk). 

[ewerk 26168]

27 minutes ago, Alex said:

What was a realistic end game here though? I guess the only real alternative was staying indefinitely.

Why not? They've been in South Korea for over 60 years to deter the North. Similarly they could have stayed in Afghanistan with even fewer numbers to prevent the advance of the Taliban. Biden didn't order the troops in to begin with but as President of the USA it was his responsibility to ensure that all progress made wasn't going to be lost.

[Howmanheyman 26605]

32 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Why not? They've been in South Korea for over 60 years to deter the North. Similarly they could have stayed in Afghanistan with even fewer numbers to prevent the advance of the Taliban. Biden didn't order the troops in to begin with but as President of the USA it was his responsibility to ensure that all progress made wasn't going to be lost.

"You certainly wouldn't be advising the use of an occupying force from a different country now, Ewerk, would you?"

[Kid Dynamite 5882]

Bunch of malnourished, dispraxic gonks. It's like Four Lions in real life 
 

 

[Tom 13806]

 

[Gemmill 34166]

 

Rubber dinghy rapids, bro. 

[Howmanheyman 26605]

I just don't know where to start with this......

 

 

 

Then......

 

 

 

I mean, what the actual fuck? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 17, 2021 by Howmanheyman

[Gemmill 34166]

Is Wraith planning a midnight special ops raid? What a film this would make. 

[Howmanheyman 26605]

He didn't have them booked in for ladies night, did he? 

[Alex 30239]

11 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Is Wraith planning a midnight special ops raid? What a film this would make. 

Him, Tommy Robinson and William Storey 

[Howmanheyman 26605]

[Renton 17610]

Now I work from home a fair bit (I'm on a 2/3 split with the office), I get to listen to the radio a bit more. Thought Starmer was really impressive at Parliament just now, utterly destroyed Johnson. Still, we live through the media prism and people don't want "boring" competence any more, they want flamboyant popularism.  

[PaddockLad 14527]

 

[Isegrim 8868]

 

[Dr Gloom 19735]

a powerful speech. no orators like this on the tory front benches 

[Renton 17610]

Genuinely think this might be the beginning of the end for de Pfeffel. People are beginning to see through the act:

• He's lost the confidence of farmers, fisherman, and manufacturers.
• Signs that the blue wall is crumbling and he can't keep his promises to the red wall (HS2 going).
• Now the armed forces.
• Can't keep banging on about the vaccination programme as Europe has caught up and in many cases overtaken us, with generally better health outcomes.
• Issues with Brexit (supply chain and many other sectors) becoming obvious. Running out of chicken and beer.
• DUP and NI problem is insoluble and he can't extract himself from it.
• Corruption/cronyism scandals everywhere. 
• Internationally we are a fucking mess, an absolute joke. May pointed out how vacuous "global Britain" was yesterday.
• He's skint and needs to make some real money. 

I could go on but he is incompetent and surrounded himself with incompetent yes men, the charade is breaking, the growing feeling of resentment is palpable. The fat cunt is wearing no clothes.  Of course, the people who will decide his fate are his own party. Which is why I think after yesterday he is rather fucked. 

 

[ewerk 26168]

The worrying thing is who comes next.

[Alex 30239]

They’ll stick with him as long as it looks like he can win elections. 

[Rayvin 4949]

I reckon he'll see out the term.

 

There's no threat coming from anywhere else no matter how good an occasional speech might be. We're midway through the Tory era, they're safe as houses IMO.

[Renton 17610]

Sportsman's bet he doesn’t. Things are turning to shit and there's no pandemic to use as an excuse now. We've got the army driving ambulances in Newcastle now ffs. 

[TheGingerQuiff 2412]

Actionmandemic

[Gemmill 34166]

 

This is awful. 

 

[TheGingerQuiff 2412]

43 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

This is awful. 

 

If they'd been told they were eligible then the story wouldn't be in the papers. Now there'll be some sort of government intervention showing us how humane tories are.