trophyshy 6431 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Been a while....votes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4948 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Stay until the end of the season at least, and see where we are from there. While I think he is a victim of circumstance to some extent (he developed a good system with the resources he had, and a key part of that system was sold - of course he's going to need time to re-engineer the system), if he can't come up with a functional team by the end of the season then there's no point in continuing really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Needs to go. I wonder if the decision not to replace Kinnear was taken with a view to giving Pards the boot and getting in a manager who would have more control in the transfer market? Or is that wishful thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26100 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I think that a better question would be 'Do you think that Pardew is doing a good job?' There is certainly room for people to think that he is doing a bad job but not wanting rid of him because of the potential replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Pardews only a part of the problem a better poll would have been an Ashley approval rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6431 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Pardews only a part of the problem a better poll would have been an Ashley approval rating Completely unnecessary as only Leazes_Mag approves of Ashley and he's flounced. Â Plus of course anyone is free to set up whatever poll they think is more pertinent, so fill yer boots lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26100 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Like I have the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8926 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 It's not as simple as that for me. I don't think he's a good manager and Newcastle United can certainly do better, however it doesn't matter how good he is, as this owner wants 6-8th position in the Premier League. Is Pardew good enough to get us there? Yes, he probably is (every other season). So every season, once that's assured, our season is over and performances &* results will tail off. Â A new owner takes over, should he go? Abso-tittyfucking-lutely Under Ashley? What's the point? Even if we employed Mourinho, the aims wouldn't change. 6th to 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3414 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Summed up well by Fish. Its just the reality of the situation. Pardew has his moments but on the whole I dont think he's a great manager. Same goes for the rest of our coaching team. Ashley's not going to try and invest in someone better though so its all very pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Needs a complete clear out from top down over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 It's not as simple as that for me. I don't think he's a good manager and Newcastle United can certainly do better, however it doesn't matter how good he is, as this owner wants 6-8th position in the Premier League. Is Pardew good enough to get us there? Yes, he probably is (every other season). So every season, once that's assured, our season is over and performances &* results will tail off. Â A new owner takes over, should he go? Abso-tittyfucking-lutely Under Ashley? What's the point? Even if we employed Mourinho, the aims wouldn't change. 6th to 8th. Â I agree with this. Although I dislike Pardew and think he's totally average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6431 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 What's the point? The hope of better football? And not having complete cunts in both chairs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 It's not as simple as that for me. I don't think he's a good manager and Newcastle United can certainly do better, however it doesn't matter how good he is, as this owner wants 6-8th position in the Premier League. Is Pardew good enough to get us there? Yes, he probably is (every other season). So every season, once that's assured, our season is over and performances &* results will tail off. Â A new owner takes over, should he go? Abso-tittyfucking-lutely Under Ashley? What's the point? Even if we employed Mourinho, the aims wouldn't change. 6th to 8th. A load of Rubbish Fish. Most football owners are going to be extremely happy to aim for 6th to 8th. The chances of getting a new owner who wants to splurge all those extra millions to push for Champions League are extremely remote. Â More likely we end up with Venky types. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I have two current fears regarding the club. Â #1 With the current state of affairs, if nothing changes what will happen next season. Â #2 If we do change AP, who do we bring in and will it change anything or stop a slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 A load of Rubbish Fish. Most football owners are going to be extremely happy to aim for 6th to 8th. The chances of getting a new owner who wants to splurge all those extra millions to push for Champions League are extremely remote. Â More likely we end up with Venky types. With things as they are now can you see us actually finishing 6-8th next season? I know I cant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26578 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think he needs to go. He's ran his race here and it shows. He is not the main problem at the club of course, but he is a problem. I'd love to know how his teams, even in a good run, can get hammered so often and not just get beat. I'd also love to know why he thinks he's so 'unlucky' in the cups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think the current air of despair does still need to be taken in the context that we are in our best league position at this time of the year for nearly 10 years. (Bar the 5th Finish). Â We also have a lot of very winnable games coming up in the next 9 games and lots of purple players returning. Â We could yet see another good run giving us European football. Â If you think Pardew should have got more / developed more from the likes of Ben Arfa, Sisokko, Santon, Mbwia, Cisse etc this season then you have to conclude that we should be doing even better already. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26578 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think the current air of despair does still need to be taken in the context that we are in our best league position at this time of the year for nearly 10 years. (Bar the 5th Finish). Â We also have a lot of very winnable games coming up in the next 9 games and lots of purple players returning. Â We could yet see another good run giving us European football. Â If you think Pardew should have got more / developed more from the likes of Ben Arfa, Sisokko, Santon, Mbwia, Cisse etc this season then you have to conclude that we should be doing even better already. CT, man, I agree to a point about the players missing but he looks a busted flush, man. The 'best for ten years' stuff does make me laugh a bit, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Needs to go. I wonder if the decision not to replace Kinnear was taken with a view to giving Pards the boot and getting in a manager who would have more control in the transfer market? Or is that wishful thinking? anything positive is wishful thinking at this point. Â I don't see how people wanting him gone are expecting anything better, and it could get a lot worse. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 A load of Rubbish Fish. Most football owners are going to be extremely happy to aim for 6th to 8th. The chances of getting a new owner who wants to splurge all those extra millions to push for Champions League are extremely remote. Â More likely we end up with Venky types. competing with the likes of everton would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38499 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think the current air of despair does still need to be taken in the context that we are in our best league position at this time of the year for nearly 10 years. (Bar the 5th Finish). Â We also have a lot of very winnable games coming up in the next 9 games and lots of purple players returning. Â We could yet see another good run giving us European football. Â If you think Pardew should have got more / developed more from the likes of Ben Arfa, Sisokko, Santon, Mbwia, Cisse etc this season then you have to conclude that we should be doing even better already. Do you think the "current air of despair" has anything to do with 13 goals against us, 1 for in the last five games?He's lost the players. Time to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Don't get me wrong, I'll be delighted to get someone better. I'm just saying that with big players due back, and a fairly easy run in, he could still get us into Europe (with his best player sold as well). Â Would that justify a sacking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6431 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) He could lay a golden egg in Grainger Market. Does that justify a sacking? Edited February 16, 2014 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13804 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 He could lose 3 derbys in a row, he could make zero progress in any domestic cup in 4 years, he could oversee our worst home defeat for 85 years, he could oversee our worst home run for 30 years and not get sacked. He could fail to utilise our best players & courtesy of poor tactics compromise the form of others, he could start Steven Taylor instead of a far superior £7m centre half etc etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6431 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 G'wan Tom! Â It'd be a monumental effort to get someone who could out-Pardew Pardew. But let's not take that risk, eh lads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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