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http://onbarrackroad.com/2014/07/14/hindsight-hope/

 

 

Signing players is great fun isn’t it? So much so that you may even elevate it to something it isn’t, maybe even praise those that have so often failed you in the past for simply doing what needs to be done.

 

Opinions of Cabella are all positive and his signing looks to be the perfect choice to fill the ever widening hole left by love him or hate him Ben Arfa, and the young Dutch right back is rated highly by my Feyenoord mates from Cabras Feliz, so you know, there’s that. The Colback kerfuffle of whether we tried to offload him to West Ham is irrelevant now, as is his hand gesture during the Derby. I’d prefer that from a player than refusing to celebrate. Remember that chap from Norwich who refused to celebrate against Villa because he nearly signed for them once, now there’s a man going places, born winner that one. As for Ayoze, we’ll see. Check out this on inbedwithmaradona about the lad, and if that doesn’t add intrigue to him it might help those keen to pretend they watch the Spanish second division.

So the story so far all seems quite promising what with the expected addition of another striker or two….but get those horses held.

 

The manager. He of back-patting-himself-off fame. He who has managed to lose over 50% of his matches as Newcastle manager in four years. He who has managed to lose a higher percentage of games than everyone else in English football other than Stevenage and Fulham in that time. It begs that age-old question of How shit does one have to be before someone thinks, you know, he might be a bit shit.

 

We’ve been here before with signings. The summer before we finished fifth we signed Cabaye for a fantastically low sum which was a great deal. Mourinho’s hyperbolically adored Santon for not much more. We nicked Marveaux from under the noses of Liverpool which was sneakily impressive. Demba Ba for nowt, and a January signing to top all January signings when Cisse made the number 9 his own. And Gabriel Obertan.

 

No prizes for guessing what point I’m making with that list.

 

Since then we’ve also seen a highly rated, young, league winning captain centre back come from France and play less than half his games in his rightful position. He now looks destined to leave, a reputation in tatters, and some forgetting that the older Coloccini was much worse in his first season. Hell, he might have been worse last season.

 

So when I see myself and others being labelled negative during these hedonistic days, I find it difficult to not immediately judge the upbringing of those more chipper than I. Creative signings and goalscorers excite people more than any other position so it’s only natural for optimism to build for those still with a glimmer of hope. But for me it’s not negativity, I just can’t look past the failings, excuses, and active pursuit of mediocrity that we’ve endured over these last few years.

 

We needed to buy players, we had to buy to stay where we are because that squad from last year would have been relegated were it not for one two month period. The problem is that signing anybody has become so alien to us that it has diluted the rationale that we simply had to do it. The fact that they appear to be good deals and good players is not a surprise here, we’ve done that before. So praise for a managing director that was a big part of the team that didn’t sign anyone for 18 months seems utterly bonkers to me. They are doing what needs to be done to fix the mess they created and the fact they seem quite good at it is even more irritating when put up against that barren spell.

 

I’m struggling to get excited for the new season and they’ve done that, it’s not some negative badge of honour I sadistically write on these pages. It’s that I can’t enjoy what should be an exciting time because the old dogs are still there, still wanting to not win trophies, still not wanting the burden of Europe.

 

Believe it or not I write a lot more miserably than I feel; I think it’s called a high horse or a soapbox or something, and it’s often fuelled by other opinions, beer, or the local press, particularly those feeling justified that we’ve signed some players after they said we would. Falling into the trap of thinking that being right once holds enough weight to balance the prolonged period of wrong. But scales don’t work like that, for a journalist or a manager.

 

So forgive me while I merely look on with intrigue at the comings and goings at our club, neither furious nor thrilled, but through sceptical geps, hindsight trumps hope.

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Aye, I like Carroll but he has barely played since he left due to all the injuries he's had. They'd demand a high price in all seeing as he cost them a load a year ago.

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If Carroll wasn't from the area people would want to stay a mile away from him.

 

He's done nothing since leaving us to suggest even warranting paying £15 million for him.

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No thanks. Maybe the summer after he'd flopped at Liverpool we could've had him back and he'd still be part of the player he was for us, but he's a faded force now. Followed the money and you see where it got him. We need players who are hungry for success here, not busted flushes.

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Id have him. But for the same cash id rather have Lacazette. He looks class on YouTube!

 

 

 

Lacazette signed a three year extension. He will not go for anything less than 20 million.

 

West Ham denied there has been any contact regarding Carroll.

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I personally dont believe we'd sign AC....the transfer fee is too high as are his reported wages (120k pw). I also think Fat Sham thinks he's a key player for him (altho the porn barons would probably love to shift him as he hasn't been value for money.) I suspect this is just paper talk or his agent trying to drum up interest....

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If Carroll wasn't from the area people would want to stay a mile away from him.

 

He's done nothing since leaving us to suggest even warranting paying £15 million for him.

Pretty much my stance.

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The point made about if Andy Carroll wasn't local no-one would be interested stands for me.

 

Stay away, would be expensive and doesn't play enough.

 

Even in his successful time here, he was injured a good amount of the time, a lot self inflicted

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Even in his successful time here, he was injured a good amount of the time, a lot self inflicted

Was he? He only really played for us for a season and a half as a first team player. In the championship season he played 42 times and then in up to January the next season he played 20 times. I'm not sure that really suggests he was injured a good amount of the time.

 

Not saying that means I'd go for him like.

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He got an injury on boxing day and we sold him injured didn't we? Let's not forget the injured hand, although that didn't keep him out :lol:

:lol: Aye but that kept Steven Taylor out for months, bit of a bonus really.

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:lol: Aye but that kept Steven Taylor out for months, bit of a bonus really.

 

 

I'd love him back in all honesty. I think he raised him game in our shirt and that's why he hasn't set the world alight elsewhere. He's better than he's given credit for as well.

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I'd love him back in all honesty. I think he raised him game in our shirt and that's why he hasn't set the world alight elsewhere. He's better than he's given credit for as well.

 

Is he shite.

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