ewerk 26150 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Aye but that's his first league appearance this season, isn't it? Pardew was forced to play him rather than choosing to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14521 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Pardew played him at Anfield a couple of years ago and he looked lost. Two loans later he's ready, but Pardews reverted to the 433 that got him 5th place only for a fortnight out if the last 2 seasons. He's played Abeid in cup games that he's been instructed to get beaten and we shouldn't lose sight of that. Obertan couldn't find a club in the summer after Pardew told him to find one, yet we're now told rehabilitating him is a Pardew master stroke. That sounds suspiciously like the praise he got for "sorting out Ben Arfa".....how did that turn out again?... This seasons plan a was Siem de Jong playing in Cisse, it's taken Pardew four months since de Jong's injury to stumble across a plan b that might save us from relegation. Pardew has made some decent substitutions in the last fortnight but that's it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Couldn't it be that yesterday is the product of his loan spells?Then why has he waited this long to play him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8947 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Then why has he waited this long to play him? Because in front of him was Cheik Tiote and Vurnon Anita. Injuries and loss of faith have provided Abeid with his opportunity, rather than Pardw cannily spotting Abeid's readiness for the 1st team, he was forced into it & then Abeid grabbed that opportunity with both hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoslingBeast 0 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Because in front of him was Cheik Tiote and Vurnon Anita. Injuries and loss of faith have provided Abeid with his opportunity, rather than Pardw cannily spotting Abeid's readiness for the 1st team, he was forced into it & then Abeid grabbed that opportunity with both hands. Agree he should've played Abeid much sooner, Colback should've been rotated with this strong modern young footballer. Instead Colback has been playing every game, and I don't even what he is trying to do out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Colback isn't bad mind, he had a good game yesterday too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Colback isn't good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26150 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I can see him becoming one of Pardew's undroppables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4802 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Pardew played him at Anfield a couple of years ago and he looked lost. Two loans later he's ready, but Pardews reverted to the 433 that got him 5th place only for a fortnight out if the last 2 seasons. He's played Abeid in cup games that he's been instructed to get beaten and we shouldn't lose sight of that. Obertan couldn't find a club in the summer after Pardew told him to find one, yet we're now told rehabilitating him is a Pardew master stroke. That sounds suspiciously like the praise he got for "sorting out Ben Arfa".....how did that turn out again?... This seasons plan a was Siem de Jong playing in Cisse, it's taken Pardew four months since de Jong's injury to stumble across a plan b that might save us from relegation. Pardew has made some decent substitutions in the last fortnight but that's it for me. That was Vukic that played at Anfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14521 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 That was Vukic that played at Anfield. https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/premier-league/2011-2012/liverpool-newcastle-united-453884.html Point remains, he's stumbled over a system that works rather than come up with it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8947 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Totally agree with that. If Tiote was fit we'd not be playing Sissoko in the centre for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Pards has lucked into all this but tbf has taken advantage well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8947 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 He's taken advantage, or Abeid (and the others) has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Pards got lucky but Abeid has taken his chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Pards doesn't have the luxury of regularly leaving players out for 3 years if that's the only motivational tool in his armoury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26150 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I'm looking forward to seeing Hatem's return to form in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30232 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Pardew played him at Anfield a couple of years ago and he looked lost. Two loans later he's ready, but Pardews reverted to the 433 that got him 5th place only for a fortnight out if the last 2 seasons. He's played Abeid in cup games that he's been instructed to get beaten and we shouldn't lose sight of that. Obertan couldn't find a club in the summer after Pardew told him to find one, yet we're now told rehabilitating him is a Pardew master stroke. That sounds suspiciously like the praise he got for "sorting out Ben Arfa".....how did that turn out again?... This seasons plan a was Siem de Jong playing in Cisse, it's taken Pardew four months since de Jong's injury to stumble across a plan b that might save us from relegation. Pardew has made some decent substitutions in the last fortnight but that's it for me. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1115 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Abeid's looked good these past two games against two of last seasons top four. I must admit that I'd written him off as he never seemed to do much at all in the few chances that he has had previously but obviously going to Greece on loan has been a really good move for him. I don't really think he was ever loaned out with the expectation that he would come back and be able to make a name for himself here though. For me it was an attempt to put him in the shop window to sell him. Those plans were obviously scuppered by the lack of money available in Greece so we've been left with him. Fair play to him for getting his head down and playing himself into contention though. He looks more suitable to play here than Anita does if I'm honest. But it's certainly no master stroke by Pardew any more than bringing Taylor, Obertan and Sammy back into the team has been. Had it not been for injuries there's a fair chance none of them would have played in the league this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3418 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 He's looked solid, with lots of energy and a good reading of the game. But is there any more to his game than that? I've heard he's good at set pieces but havent really seen much of him apart from Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8947 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I think the passing and goal threat will come when he gets more confidence and when he's given more licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3418 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I suppose so, what I was wondering was if he's got that in his locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8947 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 7 goals in 28 from midfield where he wasn't an out & out attacking player is pretty good. Yes it's Greece, but still 1 in 4 from midfield isn't bad (5 assists too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2406 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 They're pretty good numbers for someone who, like you say, isn't bombing forward at every opportunity. The biggest test though for me will come when, if given the opportunity, that mackem cunt declares him to be 'shit'. The mark of a good player around the club these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) They're pretty good numbers for someone who, like you say, isn't bombing forward at every opportunity. The biggest test though for me will come when, if given the opportunity, that mackem cunt declares him to be 'shit'. The mark of a good player around the club these days. being declared "shit" has become a hallmark of quality Edited November 4, 2014 by Kitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30232 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Can't help but think Bigirimana is another one whose development has been stifled. Edited November 4, 2014 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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