Alex 30241 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: How many sides have declared at tea (presumably?) on the first day in the history of test cricket? 🤔 I don’t know and it would be unusual in the modern day. You used to get loads of funny ones in the days of uncovered pitches / sticky wickets though. This would’ve related to their being nine wickets down (and no recognised batsman at the crease) plus wanting to exploit playing under the floodlights in a day-nighter. This usually causes the ball to swing more. Also you have the psychological element of surprising those then having to open the batting and making an attacking decision rather than waiting to be bowled out. For all the logic behind it not many teams would’ve done it. I seem to remember one of the great Aussie sides of the recent past doing similar. Not necessarily on day one though (declaring to exploit the bowling conditions) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14527 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Alex said: I don’t know and it would be unusual in the modern day. You used to get loads of funny ones in the days of uncovered pitches / sticky wickets though. This would’ve related to their being nine wickets down (and no recognised batsman at the crease) plus wanting to exploit playing under the floodlights in a day-nighter. This usually causes the ball to swing more. Also you have the psychological element of surprising those then having to open the batting and making an attacking decision rather than waiting to be bowled out. For all the logic behind it not many teams would’ve done it. I seem to remember one of the great Aussie sides of the recent past doing similar. Not necessarily on day one though (declaring to exploit the bowling conditions) TMS level reply, cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1115 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 It was apparently the second earliest declaration in the first innings of a test. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19736 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Alex said: Made perfect sense in the circumstances though it was vindicated as they took three wickets under the lights as the ball started moving but this ultra-aggressive approach is unprecedented in test cricket. It apparently looked like a good batting wicket. Stokes and mccullum are literally changing the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19736 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I love the way McCullum talks about it too. About making it fun, taking the pressure off the players. Adopting a “you only live once” mindset and accept you will lose a few games like this but the aim is always to win the game by playing aggressively. That’s a powerful weapon going into the ashes if the players all buy into it. I though this was a good read on the beeb. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/64646428 Also, Jimmy only needs 29 wickets to equal Warnie - madness! Duckett and Brook (especially) have been strong additions to the test side too. All v positive stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19736 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, David Kelly said: It was apparently the second earliest declaration in the first innings of a test. I’m amazed it wasn’t the earliest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30241 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 40 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I love the way McCullum talks about it too. About making it fun, taking the pressure off the players. Adopting a “you only live once” mindset and accept you will lose a few games like this but the aim is always to win the game by playing aggressively. That’s a powerful weapon going into the ashes if the players all buy into it. I though this was a good read on the beeb. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/64646428 Also, Jimmy only needs 29 wickets to equal Warnie - madness! Duckett and Brook (especially) have been strong additions to the test side too. All v positive stuff I think him and Stokes are perfect for each other. I was thinking the same re:Jimmy too. Looks like he could well overhaul Warne. Not only that but at a very similar average too (and Jimmy’s is improving all the time) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6766 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I’m amazed it wasn’t the earliest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9163 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 NZ making a real game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9163 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 David Warner may not be around for Broad to take the edge in the summer 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19736 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Declare once we’ve got a 250 lead and give ourselves 2.5 days to bowl them out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1115 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Declare once we’ve got a 250 lead and give ourselves 2.5 days to bowl them out? It's not out of the question these days but in a day night game I'm confident they wouldn't think they'll need that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19736 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 hours ago, David Kelly said: It's not out of the question these days but in a day night game I'm confident they wouldn't think they'll need that long. I was joking but it wouldn’t surprise me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9163 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 16 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Declare once we’ve got a 250 lead and give ourselves 2.5 days to bowl them out? Looking at how close NZ got, they'll get what they can until just after dinner and then have 20 overs under lights. Or until they are all out, whichever comes first. 🙂🏏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9163 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 May well be the latter. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34167 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Broad's on one again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9163 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Him and Anderson beaten the Warne and McGrath joint record 🙂🏏 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34167 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Done it again. 4 clean bowled. They were saying on BT something about it being the first time since 1960 that the first three in the order have been clean bowled. Trueman the last to do it. Is that stat specific to these two teams? Or England? Or just a general stat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9163 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Just England I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9163 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Good to see a NUFC shirt in the crowd 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9163 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Annoyingly Aussies doing well against India 🙁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6766 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) Foakes standing up for Broad and Robinson, brave man Edited February 18, 2023 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, RobinRobin said: Annoyingly Aussies doing well against India 🙁 Better be careful or you might find yourself actually being deported to Hobbiton, if an Australian that actually cares about cricket hears you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9163 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, sammynb said: Better be careful or you might find yourself actually being deported to Hobbiton, if an Australian that actually cares about cricket hears you. Do it all the time as they rightly do to me when the alternative applies. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30241 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, RobinRobin said: Good to see a NUFC shirt in the crowd 🙂 Mag behaviour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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