Park Life 70 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) In which liberalism creates fundamentalism. http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2015/01/slavoj-i-ek-charlie-hebdo-massacre-are-worst-really-full-passionate-intensity Although he is my fav philosopher I think here is waywayd. I shall with the greatest of hesitation and sadeness rip his casual over referenced interior monlogue to shreds later. The dialectic tropes which he positions to create the 'spark' of his article are not only flawed they are just plain wrong. Edited January 14, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34348 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Although he is my fav philosopher I think here is waywayd. I shall with the greatest of hesitation and sadeness rip his casual over referenced interior monlogue to shreds later. The dialectic tropes which he positions to create the 'spark' of his article are not only flawed they are just plain wrong. PARKLIFE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38693 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34348 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Sky News papping their pants about showing the cover of Charlie Hebdo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 That's extremely annoying - if I watched SkyNews in the first place I'd probably stop watching it over this. Fucking pathetic response that treats both muslims and non-muslims alike as nothing more than children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 That's extremely annoying - if I watched SkyNews in the first place I'd probably stop watching it over this. Fucking pathetic response that treats both muslims and non-muslims alike as nothing more than children. It's clear you don't watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'm not sure if I should find that offensive It's coming across as complimentary though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Brave bloke. Think it is pretty much correct IS have a very strong core and it is way off reservation from its beginnings (foreign funding and training). iirc their best fighters are from Chechnya and Bosnia, these are battle hardened veterans. Bit of ariel bombing isn't going to make much difference to the facts on the ground. Ultimately we're going to have to put boots on the ground and its going to have to be a mix of our best elite forces. Is there the will for this? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 What do you reckon will happen then? They keep sweeping through the middle east? They eventually lose interest and disband, probably turning on each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26237 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 They'll tire themselves out soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34348 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 http://www.salon.com/2015/01/15/why_porn_is_exploding_in_the_middle_east_partner/ Trap themselves in a web of their own spunk by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34348 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Pakistan is top of the list. Aimaad got some 'splaiiiiinin' to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) What do you reckon will happen then? They keep sweeping through the middle east? They eventually lose interest and disband, probably turning on each other? Thnk we have to stand back and understand that these groups are only tools (not in their minds obviously)...It will only end when they have run out of their usefullness. Without money and logistics to feed them they peeter out pretty quick. Loads of jihadis are not just there due to some kind of calling many are actually there cause they are making money. American foreign policy the main driver for chaos in the middle east decided to break up these 'resistant' (oil rich) countries as part of a dual strategy with Israel who desperately need water for the 'bigger Israel' plan they have in the works and the want to get part of the Tigris under Israeli control. When you take down such places like Libya and Iraq and soon Syria they plan to leave them as micro-states and micro-factions all vying for power and all disorganised (easier to control). You know a Caliphate here, a Kurdistan there, a place for the Shia another for the Sunni and so on.... The middle east will never be the same again. The chaos and death we see now will go on forever (that's the plan). Only one country has the power to engage in a long protracted proxy war against America and its interests. Iran. That proxy war is already ongoing all over the region. Iran doesn't really want a stand up war against Israel and America cause it will last only a couple of weeks with massive losses to life and infastructure. But IMO this is exactly what they should do if they do it right. If I was Iran I'd hit Saudi Arabia (refineries/tankers/block the waterways) and Israel together now while there is plenty on the U.S, plate. Note how quick Israel ran out of shells just hitting Palestine.# The airm would be to crash Western oil economies and currencies which are very fragile right now and deal a hammer blow. Right now is their best chance. After Iran can continue with a guerilla war as the country can't be colonised and that could tie down a broken Western economies for decades if not take down Capitalism itself. A broken American economy would suddenly have another enemy: It's own people. Highly armed and hungry. China might use the opp to take Taiwan and Russia might see it as a window to nick Ukraine, America would be overloaded and all over the place. Over time Iran will be surrounded and would lose bigger without the chace to cause such great reciprocal damage. America has to go to war with Iran it's just a question of when. We need to stay the fuck out of it. Edited January 15, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Iran is not going to attack Saudi or Israel imo. I'm not sure there's any sort of end game here, it will run on for decades and possibly centuries. I'd hope that any country not run by lunatics (which rules out the US) would stay the fuck out of the middle east. I don't know why Britain bums the US in the middle east, theyve made a bad situation worse imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Iran is not going to attack Saudi or Israel imo. I'm not sure there's any sort of end game here, it will run on for decades and possibly centuries. I'd hope that any country not run by lunatics (which rules out the US) would stay the fuck out of the middle east. I don't know why Britain bums the US in the middle east, theyve made a bad situation worse imo. Amen to that. It would play havoc with my investments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19788 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 superb piece. offend them all, i say, for it is my right. it is not your right to kill somebody because you're offended by something. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/14/charlie-hebdo-add-faithophobia-to-my-crimes?CMP=share_btn_fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14574 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 The United States came into being because of people like you Gloom, think about that the next time you a chuck pigs head through a mosque window... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3187 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 The United States came into being because of people like you Gloom, think about that the next time you a chuck pigs head through a mosque window... Did the United States not come into being cos everyone was sick of the religious nutters who were the Puritans and then because they didn't want to pay taxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34348 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 It came into being because the free and the brave needed somewhere to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14574 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Did the United States not come into being cos everyone was sick of the religious nutters who were the Puritans and then because they didn't want to pay taxes? Was everyone sick of the Catholics of Jamestown and Maryland too?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 superb piece. offend them all, i say, for it is my right. it is not your right to kill somebody because you're offended by something. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/14/charlie-hebdo-add-faithophobia-to-my-crimes?CMP=share_btn_fb Fairly good read. Although jamming the feminist foot in the door of just about any event is getting a bit tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4963 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Fairly good read. Although jamming the feminist foot in the door of just about any event is getting a bit tiresome. That's the Guardian through and through though. I don't think they even believe all the stuff they come up with, they just know it stirs up a good number of clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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