Dr Gloom 19801 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, trooper said: http://ashleyout.com Out from hibernation it's OUR club it's time to support these guys fully. We all agree with the sentiment but they’re not going to achieve anything. My honest opinion is supporters would be much better off backing the team for the final few games. Backing from the home crowd could be crucial to us staying in the division. Not empty seats. That’s what we need to help ensure we stay up so the takeover happens. Only then will Ashley finally fuck off. What would a half empty stadium achieve exactly? He isn’t going to suddenly take a lower offer just because we get on his back again. He already knows we want him out. It’s completely futile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19801 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) I’m not saying for a moment that the home crowd shouldn’t aim a few chants against Ashley by the way. I just don’t get why we’d desert the stadium at this crucial moment when our PL survival and the takeover are both hanging in the balance. Edited January 18, 2018 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: We all agree with the sentiment but they’re not going to achieve anything. My honest opinion is supporters would be much better off backing the team for the final few games. Backing from the home crowd could be crucial to us staying in the division. Not empty seats. That’s what we need to help ensure we stay up so the takeover happens. Only then will Ashley finally fuck off. What would a half empty stadium achieve exactly? He isn’t going to suddenly take a lower offer just because we get on his back again. He already knows we want him out. It’s completely futile. With respect mate these players aren't good enough Gloomy mate. You can shout & cheer the team all you want but if they're nit good enough then they're not good enough. I really like Rafa i think he's great butvhe needs to be backed financially he's coming up to 3 windows behind in the transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19801 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Obviously we would all like more money to be spent on the playing staff, which is barely fit for purpose, but again, how would a mass walkout of home fans achieve that? Ashley doesn’t give a shit what we do. I also wouldn’t bet against Rafa keeping this bunch of players up, despite the fact our squad is probably one of the worst three in the division. But he’s more likely to pull off if the fans back the team. They can’t do that if they’re not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14576 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, trooper said: The alternative is to bend over & take it but dont complain. An empty ground for a televised game is all it would take it would send out a very powerful message. Like against Spurs in 2008?...the fuckers still here 10 years later man. Ellis Short has got an empty stadium, he's still there too. A full vibrant stadium has brought PCP to the table...do you think theyd be keen on buying the mackems if they sat among 20k fuckin silent mongs staring at pink seats because what's on the pitch is so poor it's a better option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Obviously we would all like more money to be spent on the playing staff, which is barely fit for purpose, but again, how would a mass walkout of home fans achieve that? Ashley doesn’t give a shit what we do. I also wouldn’t bet against Rafa keeping this bunch of players up, despite the fact our squad is probably one of the worst three in the division. But he’s more likely to pull off if the fans back the team. They can’t do that if they’re not there. Ok say Rafa keeps us up you know that Ashley will want more money for the club factoring in the new tv money. Also is Rafa libel to stick around now he truly knows the score with Ashley i.e. undermined in 3 windows. It's all a mess & i dont think anyone of us has the solution on how to fix it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19801 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) If Rafa keeps us up and the takeover doesn’t materialise then Rafa walks in the summer. That’s pretty obvious and no one would blame him. There isn’t really a solution. We just have to hope we stay up and that Staveley increases the offer to something the fat man accepts once survival is secured. Edited January 17, 2018 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19801 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 One thing is clear - supporters abandoning the stadium isn’t going to fix anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 If there's a boycott of the stadium then Rafa is gone. He's here for the fans. If he has no backing from the fans and the boardroom then he'll leave even quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 16 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Like against Spurs in 2008?...the fuckers still here 10 years later man. Ellis Short has got an empty stadium, he's still there too. A full vibrant stadium has brought PCP to the table...do you think theyd be keen on buying the mackems if they sat among 20k fuckin silent mongs staring at pink seats because what's on the pitch is so poor it's a better option? Surely that wasn't 2008. Must have been towards the end of Pardew or even when Carver was supposed to be managing. Totally agree with the point though and with Gloomy that it's more likely we'll stay up if the players get the backing of the fans. They squad is poor, we all agree on that, but a player playing with confidence can go a lot better than one playing with none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14576 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4 hours ago, David Kelly said: Surely that wasn't 2008. Must have been towards the end of Pardew or even when Carver was supposed to be managing. Totally agree with the point though and with Gloomy that it's more likely we'll stay up if the players get the backing of the fans. They squad is poor, we all agree on that, but a player playing with confidence can go a lot better than one playing with none. 1-2 v Spurs league cup live on sky 24th Sept 2008 : 20,577 First home game after the Hull City/"cockney mafia OUT!" game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Maybe's the players are pissed off that Rafa hasn't been backed by Ashley & actually wouldn't mind the fans protesting against Ashley. After all the protests wouldn't be aimed at them or Rafa. It couldn't unsettle them anymore than this none takeover fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Maybe it was just a shit bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19801 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Troops, you love a protest don’t you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The last thing we need is the stadium atmosphere getting toxic. Back the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Troops, you love a protest don’t you Not really but i hate the fact there's a bloke ( i use the term loosely ) abusing his stewardship of our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 16 hours ago, PaddockLad said: 1-2 v Spurs league cup live on sky 24th Sept 2008 : 20,577 First home game after the Hull City/"cockney mafia OUT!" game Sorry I thought you meant the Spurs league game that there was the boycott for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12757 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 19 hours ago, StoneColdStephenIreland said: The last thing we need is the stadium atmosphere getting toxic. Back the players. Aye, this lot need all the help they can get. Walkouts, low attendances etc. have, time and again, been proven not to work. He doesn't give a fuck because he knows everyone will be back as soon as we get a decent result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The only positive Rafa has in this job at the moment is the backing of the fans. If he feels he's losing that (turning up on match days and backing the players) then he'd probably just give up on the club as what else will there be here for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 He's gone in the summer if Ashley stays anyway. I think in the unlikely event that the stadium was suddenly half empty, he'd know why the fans were doing it and bide his time till the takeover and inevitable return of the crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, adios said: He's gone in the summer if Ashley stays anyway. I think in the unlikely event that the stadium was suddenly half empty, he'd know why the fans were doing it and bide his time till the takeover and inevitable return of the crowds. Off course Rafa knows the score he understands why the fans hate Ashley. In fact if he could he would probably join in any protests. The players will be the same they'll understand why the fans are protesting. Everything is aimed at Ashley nobody else. Edited January 20, 2018 by trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, trooper said: Off course Rafa knows the score he understands why the fans hate Ashley. In fact if he could he would probably join in any protests. The players will be the same they'll understand why the fans are protesting. Everything is aimed at Ashley nobody else. I'm worried about you, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Not good enough. Please read, then share far and wide. #AshleyOut Domestic Cup Record Under Ashley Tenure 07/08 League Cup - Progressed 1 Round FA Cup - Progressed 1 Round Total Round Progressions - 2 08/09 League Cup - Progressed 1 Round FA Cup - Progressed 0 Rounds Total Round Progressions - 1 09/10 League Cup - Progressed 1 Round FA Cup - Progressed 1 Round Total Round Progressions - 2 10/11 League Cup - Progressed 2 Rounds FA Cup - Progressed 0 Rounds Total Round Progressions - 2 11/12 League Cup - Progressed 2 Rounds FA Cup - Progressed 1 Round Total Round Progressions - 3 12/13 League Cup - Progressed 0 Rounds FA Cup - Progressed 0 Rounds Total Round Progressions - 0 13/14 League Cup - Progressed 2 Rounds FA Cup - Progressed 0 Rounds Total Round Progressions - 2 14/15 League Cup - Progressed 3 Rounds FA Cup - Progressed 0 Rounds Total Round Progressions - 3 15/16 League Cup - Progressed 1 Round FA Cup - Progressed 0 Rounds Total Round Progressions - 1 16/17 League Cup - Progressed 3 Rounds FA Cup - Progressed 1 Round Total Round Progressions - 4 17/18 League Cup - Progressed 0 Rounds FA Cup - Progressed 1 Round Total Round Progressions - 1 Summary Overall - 21 progressions in 11 seasons (22 competitions) Average - 1.9 progressions per season High - 4 progressions (16/17) Low - 0 progressions (12/13) Also Notable - 0 progressions in the FA Cup 7 times in 11 seasons, 1 progression in the other 4 - The 2 runs to the League Cup Quarter Finals (14/15 & 16/17) account for 6 of our overall 21 progressions over 11 seasons (29%) #Ashleyout.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Alright, so Mike Ashley forced the resignation of Kevin Keegan. Yes, he renamed St. James' Park. Also, since he's been here we've got a terrible record in the league and F.A. Cups. It's true that under him we've become a selling club. True that under his regime long time supporters have stopped attending games. Alright, so we've been relegated twice and perhaps another one coming. But apart from forcing Keegans resignation, renaming St. James' Park, getting terrible results in cup games, becoming a selling club, long time supporters suffering terrible times, been relegated twice under his tenure... What has Mike Ashley ever done to piss us off, EH?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9193 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 He didn't build any roads or aqueducts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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