Billy Whitehurst 772 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The other side of the coin from our dear old friend Hitcho.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3223828/PETER-HITCHENS-won-t-save-refugees-destroying-country.html The comments after the article too. It's the "I'm not racist but........" brigade. Can we not just swap one Daily Mail reader for each refugee we accept and then that will sort out the alleged overcrowding and make the country a far better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDimpleboy 0 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 It's fucking awful this, and the worst part is there isn't any obvious answer. Social media has went batshit mental. On the one hand we have groups of people making astonishing statements like 'these people have phone chargers - they are not refugees!!!!!' as if a middle class lifestyle and electrical goods mean they are safe from the threat of IS. On the other hand I've also seen plenty of people who have came to the conclusion that anyone who does not think allowing tens of thousands of Syrian refugees into the UK is a good idea is therefore a racist devoid of any compassion. The answer is probably somewhere in the middle. We can't take a 'nothing to do with us attitude' because nobody should be denied the ability to seek refuge when in danger, not to mention the West's involvement in undermining Assad. But at the same time I'm hardly surprised that there's also an 'anti-refugee' sentiment clearly visible on the internet. That happens when you smear and tarnish anyone with an opposing view on mass-immigration as a bigot for the best part of two decades. I'd also point out that the people most enthusiastic in welcoming as many refugees as possible on my Facebook/Twitter are also the people who are least likely to feel any resulting negative impacts on housing, social services etc. I think we should be proud of the financial support we've already offered - unless I'm mistaken we've completely dwarfed the rest of Europe in terms of such aid. And despite detesting the bloke, Cameron's speech was pretty much perfect in dealing with what is a particularly delicate issue. He offered to accept a reasonable number of refugees, but also stressed that these would only be people in refugee camps, meaning he clearly dissuaded people from risking their lives crossing the Mediterranean. That will almost certainly save lives, and in fact the much nicer 'REFUGEES WELCOME' line which I'm seeing everywhere could well have actually done the opposite and encouraged more people to embark on that extremely dangerous journey. So credit where it's due for Cameron. Not a nice situation at all, and it would be nice if people on both sides stopped trying to take the moral high-ground and attempted to work towards the best possible solution with the best possible outcomes for everyone - including the UK population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Will Cameron's constituancy be making accomodation available to these desperate people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26595 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Will Cameron's constituancy be making accomodation available to these desperate people You or the refugees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34164 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 essembee is quite happy in the mental home thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5881 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 According to Paddy Ashdown, Cameron has announced today that any refugees given asylum will be deported at 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13947 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Just in time to turn into IS recruits after being rejected by a Western society. Sounds smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5881 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What happens to their parents then? By that point they are likely working and contributing to the country. Do we just kick them out of their jobs and back to Syria? Or can they stay but their kids can only come here on holiday to see their family? It must be killing the Tories letting these weird foreign folk in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13947 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 They're brown. The Tories will have no problem when it comes to kicking them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 According to Paddy Ashdown, Cameron has announced today that any refugees given asylum will be deported at 18 Refugees are only granted 5 years and then it's reviewed. Labour policy brought in in 2002 before you totally wet yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5881 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The world stage looked completely different in 2002 you fat Tory bellend. Hes not talking about a 5 year review either, he's talking about a concrete deportation deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38542 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Bunter is now puzzled "Why would Dave waste taxpayer's money deporting cement?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3181 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The world stage looked completely different in 2002 you fat Tory bellend. Hes not talking about a 5 year review either, he's talking about a concrete deportation deadline Seems weird they didn't change it, what with the invasion of iraq and Afghanistan and that. Then again it sometimes suits people to forget how cuntish Blair's labour party was/is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2406 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Bunter is now puzzled "Why would Dave waste taxpayer's money deporting cement?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The world stage looked completely different in 2002 you fat Tory bellend. Hes not talking about a 5 year review either, he's talking about a concrete deportation deadline The clues in the word Refugee = Refuge. They get 5 years in happy land and then their case is reviewed. If they have acted irresponsibly they get the heave ho or if peace and goodwill has broken out in the country they have left they may be sent back. They all have the right to apply to apply to remain. It's a Labour law which is perfectly fine when offering REFUGE. Maybe if you didn't get your political news from Newsround you would not get yourself in such a confused state. Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14514 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 This has just popped up on my facebook, a lad I know has signed it.... https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477 Thing is, a few years back he was trying to get a Thai lady he'd married across there into this country but failed for some reason or other. That relationship apparently fizzled out, and he took up with another girl from Thailand, and this time he succeeded in getting her into the country. I met her once, didn't think much of it as the lad is more a friend of a friend. I Didn't see much of him for ages, but heard stories that she as refusing to get a job. Then he got home one day to find the house cleared out as she'd had to raise funds to cover online gambling debts, which was how she had been paying the rent instead of working. Then I went for a pint a few months later where our mutual friend informed me that the lad had gone to the doctors for something or other and the doc had taken a blood sample and ran a few tests. One came back positive, for HIV, which he had contracted via unprotected sex with the Thai furniture gambler. For the record, he would've signed a petition like this at any point for as long as I've known him, the best part of twenty years, around about the same time he started taking holidays in Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5881 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The clues in the word Refugee = Refuge. They get 5 years in happy land and then their case is reviewed. If they have acted irresponsibly they get the heave ho or if peace and goodwill has broken out in the country they have left they may be sent back. They all have the right to apply to apply to remain. It's a Labour law which is perfectly fine when offering REFUGE. Maybe if you didn't get your political news from Newsround you would not get yourself in such a confused state. Idiot I've got a fair interest in politics, I just don't engage you in conversation on it because I see how you go on with others. Your post above confirms what everyone on here already knew about you. I'm sure you see yourself as some sort of character on here but you just come across as an absolute shambles of a man, in every way. Enjoy life in happy land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2406 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 This has just popped up on my facebook, a lad I know has signed it.... https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477 Thing is, a few years back he was trying to get a Thai lady he'd married across there into this country but failed for some reason or other. That relationship apparently fizzled out, and he took up with another girl from Thailand, and this time he succeeded in getting her into the country. I met her once, didn't think much of it as the lad is more a friend of a friend. I Didn't see much of him for ages, but heard stories that she as refusing to get a job. Then he got home one day to find the house cleared out as she'd had to raise funds to cover online gambling debts, which was how she had been paying the rent instead of working. Then I went for a pint a few months later where our mutual friend informed me that the lad had gone to the doctors for something or other and the doc had taken a blood sample and ran a few tests. One came back positive, for HIV, which he had contracted via unprotected sex with the Thai furniture gambler. For the record, he would've signed a petition like this at any point for as long as I've known him, the best part of twenty years, around about the same time he started taking holidays in Thailand... Is she single? Asking so Gemmers doesn't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26595 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The clues in the word Refugee = Refuge. They get 5 years in happy land and then their case is reviewed. If they have acted irresponsibly they get the heave ho or if peace and goodwill has broken out in the country they have left they may be sent back. They all have the right to apply to apply to remain. It's a Labour law which is perfectly fine when offering REFUGE. Maybe if you didn't get your political news from Newsround you would not get yourself in such a confused state. Idiot I'd just like to go on record as thanking CT for telling us how the words 'refuge' and 'refugee' are so intrinsically linked. Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26595 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 This has just popped up on my facebook, a lad I know has signed it.... https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477 Thing is, a few years back he was trying to get a Thai lady he'd married across there into this country but failed for some reason or other. That relationship apparently fizzled out, and he took up with another girl from Thailand, and this time he succeeded in getting her into the country. I met her once, didn't think much of it as the lad is more a friend of a friend. I Didn't see much of him for ages, but heard stories that she as refusing to get a job. Then he got home one day to find the house cleared out as she'd had to raise funds to cover online gambling debts, which was how she had been paying the rent instead of working. Then I went for a pint a few months later where our mutual friend informed me that the lad had gone to the doctors for something or other and the doc had taken a blood sample and ran a few tests. One came back positive, for HIV, which he had contracted via unprotected sex with the Thai furniture gambler. For the record, he would've signed a petition like this at any point for as long as I've known him, the best part of twenty years, around about the same time he started taking holidays in Thailand... "Man who fish in other mans pond, catch crabs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13947 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Far from indisputable, of course, but it makes you think about how unreasonably attached we are to the concept of nationhood (unless you're CT) http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/its-starting-look-like-germany- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I've got a fair interest in politics, I just don't engage you in conversation on it because I see how you go on with others. Your post above confirms what everyone on here already knew about you. I'm sure you see yourself as some sort of character on here but you just come across as an absolute shambles of a man, in every way. Enjoy life in happy land You were caught with your pants down spouting your "nasty Tory" shit that turned out to be Labour law. Stop crying and man up you big girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2406 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I'd just like to go on record as thanking CT for telling us how the words 'refuge' and 'refugee' are so intrinsically linked. Nice one. Nope. I refuge to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5881 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) You were caught with your pants down spouting your "nasty Tory" shit that turned out to be Labour law. Stop crying and man up you big girl http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/syrian-child-refugees-to-be-deported-at-age-18-10490273.html?origin=internalSearch Who is talking about 5 year reviews? You're making up a strawman argument against yourself What happened to you in life to make you into such a compassionless arsehole? Edited September 8, 2015 by StraightEdgeWizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/syrian-child-refugees-to-be-deported-at-age-18-10490273.html?origin=internalSearch Who is talking about 5 year reviews? You're making up a strawman argument against yourself What happened to you in life to make you into such a compassionless arsehole? The problem is you just don't understand. All refugees get 5 years refuge in the UK. At the end of that 5 years they can apply to stay here permanently or go home (which the majority seem to want) if their country has become stable. It's a sensible part of UK law put in place by Labour 13 years ago. NONE of these refugees will be automatically deported after 5 years. As for compassion, what has that got to do with me pulling you up over your child like ignorance. It's quite clear from your immature postings of "cunt", "bellend" and "what's happened in your life" rhetoric that you are the one with issues. Maybe see your colleagues for a little help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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