Gemmill 34186 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 http://nypost.com/2015/10/21/saudi-prince-accused-of-gay-sex-threats-and-fart-in-face-demand/ Let's see HF try and spin a fart in the face demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 http://nypost.com/2015/10/21/saudi-prince-accused-of-gay-sex-threats-and-fart-in-face-demand/ Let's see HF try and spin a fart in the face demand. The savage. Nail him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19739 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Now that sort of behaviour, minus the death threats, all sounds like typical 21st century fun. Why deny their subjects the same pleasure? Who doesn't like a male escort farting in their face? They're clearly all advanced western democrats at heart and not really all unevolved towel heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26190 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 “I am a prince and I do what I want. You are nobody.” 'Nah, mate. When you're the KING you can do anything.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3960 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Now that sort of behaviour, minus the death threats, all sounds like typical 21st century fun. Why deny their subjects the same pleasure? Who doesn't like a male escort farting in their face? They're clearly all advanced western democrats at heart and not really all unevolved towel heads. That's why they have the people on such a tight leash through religion - to keep them in their place and maintain their power. No different to this country with help from the class system but I I hope the modern world should make it easier to corrupt the populace beneficially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 That's why they have the people on such a tight leash through religion - to keep them in their place and maintain their power. No different to this country with help from the class system but I I hope the modern world should make it easier to corrupt the populace beneficially. Great theory, but you've been saying that for years and it hasn't happened, in fact quite the opposite. Look at what has happened after Iraq,Syria,and North Africa after the Arab spring. Left to their own devices it appears most these countries prefer to be Islamic theocracies rather than secular democracies, regardless of the latest iPhone. Its not just Sunni's either. I was reading sn article the other day about a woman in Iran who was sentenced to 10 years prison for shaking her lawyer's hand ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3960 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 There are signs of very small steps in the ME but I'm under no illusions about it being a long term thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19739 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Great theory, but you've been saying that for years and it hasn't happened, in fact quite the opposite. Look at what has happened after Iraq,Syria,and North Africa after the Arab spring. Left to their own devices it appears most these countries prefer to be Islamic theocracies rather than secular democracies, regardless of the latest iPhone. Its not just Sunni's either. I was reading sn article the other day about a woman in Iran who was sentenced to 10 years prison for shaking her lawyer's hand ffs! Nothing less than she deserves, the wanton temptress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Maybe in your opinion it is but I'd personally say it's a fair opinion crudely expressed. Their justice system is roughly equivalent to medieval Europe imo. But yeah, I'd go further and say the misogyny of Saudi society is utterly sickening, as well as many other aspects of their society. I'd liken it to cancer in fact, in the way this malignancy is spreading. Is that shocking? Perhaps, but no more so than a liberal such as yourself indirectly defending it through facile comparisons with some US states. It's not shocking that you say anything like that, because like I say, western conversations about middle eastern nations are ALWAYS framed in terms of them being backwards, medieval, savages, so we're all used to it and take it as the standard view. It's perfectly normal that you would say that. Western acts of backwards savagery that could come from medieval times are never considered in those terms publicly though, only in terms of whether or not it was justified as an isolated incident. So it seems to have been shocking for you that I would make any comparison. My view is that policy shouldn't be gauged on volume or method, but simply as policy. Whenever I've made a comparison I've been careful to say the Saudi's are clearly worse and what their leaders do is abhorrent and that I'm delighted to live in a less oppressive country and holiday in others I frequently criticise. It's not at all false comparison or in any way a defence of Saudi actions to say that the US have applied the death penalty harshly too, that they will kill their own citizens without any trial whatsoever, that they kill child criminals and mentally handicapped, that we Brits will strip people of citizenship so that the US can kill them without a trial or that we have recently tortured many hundreds, or locked them up for over a decade without a day in court and all of that. While I'm happy to call these policies horrible, grotesque, disgraceful practices in direct opposition to what is supposed to be a liberal, free society governed by rule of law, I'm not inclined to call the UK or US medieval, backward thinking nations struggling down the evolutionary ladder though, nor would I expect Denmark, Norway, Sweden or Finland (who have far better human rights records) to look down their nose at the UK/US as evolutionary throwbacks. Similar rhetoric is not something I feel should be applied to the middle east. Especially in a climate where the BNP, Britain first and all those others are look to capitalise on the perceived savagery of people fleeing those awful conditions. We've done this to death now though, think we've all followed each others rational and understand it even if we don't agree. We're at a point of arguing semantics - "It's not just completely horrific and disgusting human behaviour, it's barbaric medieval behaviour because they're backwards over there". I know it's a semantic argument that I started, but it's certainly not a piss-taking wind up like you suggested. Great theory, but you've been saying that for years and it hasn't happened, in fact quite the opposite. Look at what has happened after Iraq,Syria,and North Africa after the Arab spring. Left to their own devices it appears most these countries prefer to be Islamic theocracies rather than secular democracies, regardless of the latest iPhone. Its not just Sunni's either. I was reading sn article the other day about a woman in Iran who was sentenced to 10 years prison for shaking her lawyer's hand ffs! Wiki says she's been charged, not sentenced. Grotesque stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6432 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 “I am a prince and I do what I want. You are nobody.” 'Nah, mate. When you're the KING you can do anything.' I'd fart in his face with gusto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2406 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 http://nypost.com/2015/10/21/saudi-prince-accused-of-gay-sex-threats-and-fart-in-face-demand/ Let's see HF try and spin a fart in the face demand. It'll blow over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Their justice system is roughly equivalent to medieval Europe imo. The UK were still hanging women a mere 60 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3183 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 The UK were still hanging women a mere 60 years ago. Generally not for adultery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Nice, comparing the British justice system (even of 60 years ago) with Saudi sharia. Is this a piss take? Unlike christianity, Islam has not undergone a reformation and period of enlightenment. Jesus (if he existed) was essentially an asexual pacifist. I'm not going to spell out what Mohammed was in comparison. I think there are specific difficulties and dangers with this religion, particularly the prevalent whabhabism sect. I genuinely don't believe this is compatIble with western secular culture and values. The BBC did a poll post Charlie Hebdo and and 20% of Muslims (around 600,000) actually agree. Along with some frankly terrifying views. Call me racist, call me Leazes, I'm not really arsed about being labelled as such, because I don't think I am. I just find these puerile comparisons ridiculous on otherwise obviously intelligent people. Would love to discuss more but not really possible on a photo with shite connections but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Generally not for adultery Or for being raped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8950 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Or for being raped. or for being a W-w-w-w-wwwwwwitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) HF is going to have to dig a bit deeper into the liberal boudoir that passes for his mind to posit some kind of counter strike. Edited October 23, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not in NY mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 HF is going to have to dig a bit deeper into the liberal boudoir that passes for his mind to posit some kind of counter strike. As is not uncommon, I have no idea what you're getting at, either with yopur comment or your video It's not like Charles isn't well versed in bizarre pageantry though... http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/18-reasons-why-the-queens-speech-is-a-really-weird-ceremony#.ro6D0EMM7b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Nice, comparing the British justice system (even of 60 years ago) with Saudi sharia. Is this a piss take? Pointing out that the UK, who are major backers of the Saudi state, were also hanging people 50 years ago, would to me indicate an intrinsic fault in the function of the state apparatus itself, and not a simple defence/justification of one particular state over another. Unlike christianity, Islam has not undergone a reformation and period of enlightenment. Jesus (if he existed) was essentially an asexual pacifist. I'm not going to spell out what Mohammed was in comparison. I think there are specific difficulties and dangers with this religion, particularly the prevalent whabhabism sect. I genuinely don't believe this is compatIble with western secular culture and values. The BBC did a poll post Charlie Hebdo and and 20% of Muslims (around 600,000) actually agree. Along with some frankly terrifying views. Call me racist, call me Leazes, I'm not really arsed about being labelled as such, because I don't think I am. I just find these puerile comparisons ridiculous on otherwise obviously intelligent people. Would love to discuss more but not really possible on a photo with shite connections but there you go. Your image of Christianity reads like some children's story. You've missed out the all the wars, burnings and killings along with the brutal appropriation of land, cultures and traditions it made as it swept across Europe from the Middle East. If Jesus ever met you he would probably spit in your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 As is not uncommon, I have no idea what you're getting at, either with yopur comment or your video It's not like Charles isn't well versed in bizarre pageantry though... You must think....Think..Go deep. Deep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Generally not for adultery or eating beef although to be fair to India, that fate is not fully endorsed by the BJP, at least not yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3183 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 or eating beef although to be fair to India, that fate is not fully endorsed by the BJP, at least not yet ALthough they seem to be very lenient on child rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Ha ha English people casting stones about peadophilia.... Edited October 23, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 You must think....Think..Go deep. Deep! No, not "aah!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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