Just not good enough

[Pilchard Chops 0]

Goalkeeper

Tony Caig (11/04/1974) ENG

Shay Given (20/04/1976) IRL

Steve Harper (03/02/1974) ENG

Tim Krul (03/04/1988) NED

Defence

Celestine Babayaro (29/08/1978) NGR

Jean-Alain Boumsong (14/12/1979) FRA

Titus Bramble (22/07/1981) ENG

Stephen Carr (29/08/1976) IRL

Robbie Elliott (25/12/1973) ENG

Craig Moore (12/12/1975) AUS

Peter Ramage (22/11/1983) ENG

Midfield

Lee Bowyer (03/01/1977) ENG

Martin Brittain (29/12/1984) ENG

Lee Clark (27/10/1972) ENG

Kieron Dyer (29/12/1978) ENG

Belözoglu Emre (07/09/1980) TUR

Amdy Faye (12/03/1977) SEN

Kris Gate () 253

Charles N'Zogbia (28/05/1986) FRA

Alan O'Brien (22/02/1985) IRL

Scott Parker (13/10/1980) ENG

Nolberto Solano (12/12/1974) PER

Steven Taylor (23/01/1986) ENG

Attack

Shola Ameobi (12/10/1981) ENG

Michael Chopra (23/12/1983) ENG

Albert Luque (11/03/1978) ESP

Michael Owen (14/12/1979) ENG

Alan Shearer (13/08/1970) ENG

Manager Graeme Souness (06/05/1953) SCO

[Guest Sima]

Goalkeeper   

Tony Caig  (11/04/1974) ENG 

Shay Given  (20/04/1976) IRL 

Steve Harper  (03/02/1974) ENG 

Tim Krul  (03/04/1988) NED 

Defence   

Celestine Babayaro  (29/08/1978) NGR 

Jean-Alain Boumsong  (14/12/1979) FRA 

  Titus Bramble  (22/07/1981) ENG 

Stephen Carr  (29/08/1976) IRL 

Robbie Elliott  (25/12/1973) ENG 

  Craig Moore  (12/12/1975) AUS 

  Peter Ramage  (22/11/1983) ENG 

Midfield   

Lee Bowyer  (03/01/1977) ENG 

Martin Brittain  (29/12/1984) ENG 

Lee Clark  (27/10/1972) ENG 

Kieron Dyer  (29/12/1978) ENG 

Belözoglu Emre  (07/09/1980) TUR 

Amdy Faye  (12/03/1977) SEN 

Kris Gate  () 253 

Charles N'Zogbia  (28/05/1986) FRA 

Alan O'Brien  (22/02/1985) IRL 

Scott Parker  (13/10/1980) ENG 

Nolberto Solano  (12/12/1974) PER 

Steven Taylor  (23/01/1986) ENG 

Attack   

Shola Ameobi  (12/10/1981) ENG 

Michael Chopra  (23/12/1983) ENG 

Albert Luque  (11/03/1978) ESP 

Michael Owen  (14/12/1979) ENG 

Alan Shearer  (13/08/1970) ENG 

Manager    Graeme Souness  (06/05/1953) SCO 

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tbh

Edited January 22, 2006 by Sima

[Bombadil 0]

It's nothing to do with the players, most managers in the league would happily want to work with this group of players. On paper, the players we have are better than the ones who got uns into the Champions League, apart from one or two exceptions. If Robson had been told in 2003 that he could go out and sign Owen, Emre, Parker and Luque and an £8m defender, we would have been challenging for the title the next season.

 

It's all down to the manager. If we can hold on to the better players we have and and if we can get a good manager in, there's no reason why we can't turn it all around.

Edited January 22, 2006 by Bombadil

[Renton 17610]

Goalkeeper    

Tony Caig   (11/04/1974) ENG 

Shay Given  (20/04/1976) IRL 

Steve Harper  (03/02/1974) ENG 

Tim Krul  (03/04/1988) NED 

Defence   

Celestine Babayaro  (29/08/1978) NGR 

Jean-Alain Boumsong  (14/12/1979) FRA 

   Titus Bramble  (22/07/1981) ENG 

Stephen Carr  (29/08/1976) IRL 

Robbie Elliott  (25/12/1973) ENG 

   Craig Moore  (12/12/1975) AUS 

   Peter Ramage  (22/11/1983) ENG 

Midfield   

Lee Bowyer  (03/01/1977) ENG 

Martin Brittain  (29/12/1984) ENG 

Lee Clark  (27/10/1972) ENG 

Kieron Dyer  (29/12/1978) ENG 

Belözoglu Emre  (07/09/1980) TUR 

Amdy Faye  (12/03/1977) SEN 

Kris Gate  () 253 

Charles N'Zogbia  (28/05/1986) FRA 

Alan O'Brien  (22/02/1985) IRL 

Scott Parker  (13/10/1980) ENG 

Nolberto Solano  (12/12/1974) PER 

Steven Taylor  (23/01/1986) ENG 

Attack   

Shola Ameobi  (12/10/1981) ENG 

Michael Chopra  (23/12/1983) ENG 

Albert Luque  (11/03/1978) ESP 

Michael Owen  (14/12/1979) ENG 

Alan Shearer  (13/08/1970) ENG 

Manager    Graeme Souness  (06/05/1953) SCO 

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tbh

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I don't follow this post. Are you highlighting the ones you don't think are good enough? By implication, are you happy with Luque, half of Owen, Babyaro, Carr and a Turkish midfielder who never plays?

 

Odd.

[adios 717]

I don't follow this post. Are you highlighting the ones you don't think are good enough? By implication, are you happy with Luque, half of Owen, Babyaro, Carr and a Turkish midfielder who never plays?

 

Odd.

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This board's like fucking Blankety Blank at the moment!

 

Why is Taylor not on that list?

[Kid Dynamite 5882]

hes a midfielder apparently, and also shit according to sima, as is ramage. Obviously if you arent nesta after 20games at this club youre out on your arse.

[Papa Lazaru 0]

It's nothing to do with the players, most managers in the league would happily want to work with this group of players. On paper, the players we have are better than the ones who got uns into the Champions League, apart from one or two exceptions. If Robson had been told in 2003 that he could go out and sign Owen, Emre, Parker and Luque and an £8m defender, we would have been challenging for the title the next season.

 

It's all down to the manager. If we can hold on to the better players we have and and if we can get a good manager in, there's no reason why we can't turn it all around.

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Thats the way it is, even with the injuries he is putting out a team better than many of the clubs above us in the league. And aside from Manu, arse, pool and chelsea nobody has a better squad, they do however have better managers.

 

Whoever takes over if he goes this season i won't judge on this season really because they are coming in very late, so i'd be looking for some improvement in league position and clear signs that things were moving forward, plus signs of actual tactics, organisation, coaching and the like.

 

Whereas when fuckwitt souness took over it was after only 4 games so he had no excuse for not achieving anythign thats eason.