Rayvin 4964 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) Gosh you're salty this morning. Edited May 4, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Well, shall we wait for him to confirm? Rather than putting words in his mouth? Would that be a responsible thing to do Rayvin? It would, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Gosh you're salty this morning. Â Â kiss ma grits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26292 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Gosh you're salty this morning. Â Funny his girlfriend was saying the same thing earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 we had £45m cash in the bank at the start of the season when we spent £80m.  Assuming the same income but nowt in the bank we could therefore spend £35m.  But, TV money is at least £20m more, so there's £55m.  And we're meant to be getting £10m a year for Sissoko and Wijnaldum, so there's £65m.  Then there's the new shirt deal, which should be a few million more than the Wonga one.  Should get some wedge out of Thauvin?  De Jong?  Krul?  http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/36253-championship-run-in/page-7#entry1466571  My guess is Luke Edwards reads me, rather than having the inside track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26292 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/36253-championship-run-in/page-7#entry1466571  My guess is Luke Edwards reads me, rather than having the inside track  Except you won't answer my very simple question!  You're accounting for cash not yet received. We had £1.7m in the bank at the end of last season. How are we going to pay out £70m up front on players before we receive the TV money without Ashley putting more money in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Overdraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26292 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 That seems unlikely to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 How come? The interest rates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26292 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Partly and partly due to the fact that banks don't hand out huge overdrafts like that to football clubs and certainly not without security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 True. Â I suppose the other thing here is that if we spent the money we'd have at the end of this year, we're always playing catch up. Maybe this is what Charnley was getting at, maybe we have to consolidate this year and spend next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19817 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 £80m is a decent war chest and should confirm Rafa will stay on, if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Partly and partly due to the fact that banks don't hand out huge overdrafts like that to football clubs and certainly not without security.  The TV money guaranteed at the end of the season would be security.  We used a £20m overdraft in full last time we got promoted.  We've not spent on new signings before we had the money before, so I'm inclined to agree that it wouldn't line up with previous patterns, however, we've never had rafa threatening to walk before either so the amount is just what could conceivably be spent without extending the long term debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3194 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Surely not spending would be football suicide and spending on the hop is better than getting relegated again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30385 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 If, like me, you are a betting man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Just looking at net spend this season in the PL - a few interesting takeaways:  1) Man City - £151m 2) Man United - £117m 3) Arsenal - £87m 4) Crystal Palace - £43m 5) Burnley - £37m 6) West Ham - £36m 7) Boro - £33m 8) Stoke - £30m 9) Tottenham - £26m 10) Leicester - £22m  Intriguing that both Burnley and Boro realised they had to spend quite a lot to try and get a footing in the PL. Even Hull spent £10m.  But, though I imagine spending will again increase this year, £70m would clearly have us being pretty competitive. Should be enough to convince Rafa to stay if it's true.  One other titbit - I'm more appreciative of what Jurgen Klopp's doing given they apparently made a £4m profit on player sales...  https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Just looking at net spend this season in the PL - a few interesting takeaways:  1) Man City - £151m 2) Man United - £117m 3) Arsenal - £87m 4) Crystal Palace - £43m 5) Burnley - £37m 6) West Ham - £36m 7) Boro - £33m 8) Stoke - £30m 9) Tottenham - £26m 10) Leicester - £22m  Intriguing that both Burnley and Boro realised they had to spend quite a lot to try and get a footing in the PL. Even Hull spent £10m.  But, though I imagine spending will again increase this year, £70m would clearly have us being pretty competitive. Should be enough to convince Rafa to stay if it's true.  One other titbit - I'm more appreciative of what Jurgen Klopp's doing given they apparently made a £4m profit on player sales...  https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1  Bear in mind Karanka and Dyche had longer to build their squad than Benitez has. So while their net spend this season is sizeable, that's on top of previous windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4218 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Just looking at net spend this season in the PL - a few interesting takeaways:  1) Man City - £151m 2) Man United - £117m 3) Arsenal - £87m 4) Crystal Palace - £43m 5) Burnley - £37m 6) West Ham - £36m 7) Boro - £33m 8) Stoke - £30m 9) Tottenham - £26m 10) Leicester - £22m  Intriguing that both Burnley and Boro realised they had to spend quite a lot to try and get a footing in the PL. Even Hull spent £10m.  But, though I imagine spending will again increase this year, £70m would clearly have us being pretty competitive. Should be enough to convince Rafa to stay if it's true.  One other titbit - I'm more appreciative of what Jurgen Klopp's doing given they apparently made a £4m profit on player sales...  https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1   What about gross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 What about gross? He spent about £8m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4218 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 He spent about £8m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Except you won't answer my very simple question!  You're accounting for cash not yet received. We had £1.7m in the bank at the end of last season. How are we going to pay out £70m up front on players before we receive the TV money without Ashley putting more money in? Wonga loan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 297 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Well, it was great having him here and I hope he gets a good send off at the weekend  Great manager, such a shame we got him during the Ashley era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 297 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 £80m is a decent war chest and should confirm Rafa will stay on, if true. 2 or 3 premiership players at best , at current rates ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26292 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Just who are you planning on buying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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