Dr Gloom 19817 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: I’m sure the World Police have some “special” weapons only they know about, until it’s time for everyone to know about them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16628 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Wasnt that similar to when the cold war ended and they realised the Russians weapons and equipment were not as solid as they first assumed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 There has certainly been a big shift in the perception of the Russian military in all of this. Some of it will be propaganda I'm sure but some of my formerly Putin sympathetic friends (left wing, but I'm glad to say that sentiment didn't survive this war where the obvious flaws in their perception have been revealed) used to talk about Russia as if it was a real and serious threat to the US war machine Fucking no chance on this evidence. They're a greater real and serious threat to themselves than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17749 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: There has certainly been a big shift in the perception of the Russian military in all of this. Some of it will be propaganda I'm sure but some of my formerly Putin sympathetic friends (left wing, but I'm glad to say that sentiment didn't survive this war where the obvious flaws in their perception have been revealed) used to talk about Russia as if it was a real and serious threat to the US war machine Fucking no chance on this evidence. They're a greater real and serious threat to themselves than anyone else. I'd love to see a square go between NATO and these fuckers. Ironically it's only the threat of nuclear warfare stopping it imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3458 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Well considering leaders from all but a handful of countries are expected to be in attendance at the Queen's funeral, if the Russians do fancy an armageddon there will not be a better time and place for the first strike 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38743 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Tom said: A large part of the battering Ukraine are dishing out is due to western weaponry, drones & javelin missiles etc. And the other part is because they know what they’re fighting for- their home. Morale and purpose are huge motivators. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6846 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9201 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Always ironic given the alleged wish to de-Nazi Ukraine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30384 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Wasn’t there was a UK investigation that supposedly found similar? But the Brexit stuff was suppressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19817 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Know your enemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13840 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 About 75% of our government have took Russian money & the conservatives have been taking Russian donations forever. Who is this news to exactly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 That's the thing, many of us having been saying Putin is the enemy behind the curtain for years. I remember @PaddockLad posting that analysis from Carol Cadwalladr about how we have been in an information war with Russia since 2014, that we weren't officially aware of or acknowledging which really and truly allowed me to see Russian interference not as opportunism but as a deliberate, long term strategy. So yes, nothing new to those of us with our eyes open, but it's still significant that these reports are getting traction now. Seeing the enemy for what it is will be a huge step forward. The Tories ran their own investigation but specifically told that review not to look for evidence of Russian interference into Brexit... the US has had to do it for us. We knew, but I'm glad to see this anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6846 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Tom said: About 75% of our government have took Russian money & the conservatives have been taking Russian donations forever. Who is this news to exactly? No news at all, but as it's reported in the US it's getting some coverage, although the BBC article in respect of it mentions Albania and Madagascar and even manages to shoe horn in Brussels, but fuck all about the Tories and Brexit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rayvin said: That's the thing, many of us having been saying Putin is the enemy behind the curtain for years. I remember @PaddockLad posting that analysis from Carol Cadwalladr about how we have been in an information war with Russia since 2014, that we weren't officially aware of or acknowledging which really and truly allowed me to see Russian interference not as opportunism but as a deliberate, long term strategy. So yes, nothing new to those of us with our eyes open, but it's still significant that these reports are getting traction now. Seeing the enemy for what it is will be a huge step forward. The Tories ran their own investigation but specifically told that review not to look for evidence of Russian interference into Brexit... the US has had to do it for us. We knew, but I'm glad to see this anyway. I wonder what happens when Putin is replaced. I'm want to expect some kind of chaotic collapse, but is there someone capable waiting for their turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9201 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I am sure there are plenty patiently waiting their turn at the trough, but I expect chaos all the same, because none of them will wait once Putin has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2765 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, The Fish said: I wonder what happens when Putin is replaced. I'm want to expect some kind of chaotic collapse, but is there someone capable waiting for their turn? Good question and I've no idea. I wouldn't have thought it'll be Medvedev since he's fallen from favour now apparently. Unless there is an obvious successor that is waiting in the shadows then I think the more likely scenario is indeed a collapse as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6846 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) If Putin's replaced, it won't be one of these (from Wiki Russian "unlucky" businessmen mysteriously killed 2022) Edited September 14, 2022 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I need to know more about Alexander Subbotin. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38743 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Can’t you read? He died from a toad poison induced heart attack during a shamanic ritual in a Jamaican shaman’s basement in Moscow. Happens all the time. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30384 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Was thinking the same thing like. Jamaican shaman in Moscow sounds like one hell of good dub act 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38743 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Lee Scratch Perrystroika. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2765 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 "Human Turd-Beetle.". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9201 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 16 hours ago, Rayvin said: I wouldn't have thought it'll be Medvedev since he's fallen from favour now apparently. Medvedev was always only Putin's Charnley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14584 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Corruption in the Russian army, a concise guide 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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