Monkeys Fist 38733 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I don't see this whole nuclear thing kicking off, but if it does I hope the first missile scores a direct hit on my giant forehead, cos I cannot be fucked with living in the aftermath. Fallout 5 - Wideopen. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9195 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Fallout 5 - Wideopen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rayvin 4964 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I don't see this whole nuclear thing kicking off, but if it does I hope the first missile scores a direct hit on my giant forehead, cos I cannot be fucked with living in the aftermath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38733 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Interesting article about about how wars end, and likely outcomes of this one. None of it particularly uplifting, but worth the read. https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-inquiry/how-the-war-in-ukraine-might-end 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Well this is grim Saturday morning reading Time to stock up on toilet rolls and Lloyd Grossman sauce 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13836 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 56 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Interesting article about about how wars end, and likely outcomes of this one. None of it particularly uplifting, but worth the read. https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-inquiry/how-the-war-in-ukraine-might-end explain in football terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26768 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, Tom said: explain in football terms If Russia are losing towards the end then Putin could send the keeper up front for corners/free kicks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38733 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tom said: explain in football terms Extra time, penalties, then the referee makes up some new rules. Basically, Man Utd under Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19807 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Tom said: I get the feeling we are absolutely fucked. last throw of the dice from tsar vlad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34413 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I'll worry about this when I hear a siren, doomscrollers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17744 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I found the translation of that speech more reassuring than concerning. Only one reference to nukes, dating to WW2. If Japan can accept this and Germany with Dresden, I'm unsure of his point. Also he seems to forget Russia is a major part of the world order he is so paranoid about. It just sounds like the ramblings of a mad man. Somebody mentioned he would want to preserve his own life. Of so, he won't use nukes. Next thing is whether his chain of command would allow it. I personally doubt they would. I'm just sick of the cunt at this stage. The world has enough problems with pandemics, climate change, and other instabilities without this twat stirring the pot. I hope someone takes him out, although just like with Johnson, his replacement could be worse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Renton said: I found the translation of that speech more reassuring than concerning. Only one reference to nukes, dating to WW2. If Japan can accept this and Germany with Dresden, I'm unsure of his point. Also he seems to forget Russia is a major part of the world order he is so paranoid about. It just sounds like the ramblings of a mad man. Somebody mentioned he would want to preserve his own life. Of so, he won't use nukes. Next thing is whether his chain of command would allow it. I personally doubt they would. I'm just sick of the cunt at this stage. The world has enough problems with pandemics, climate change, and other instabilities without this twat stirring the pot. I hope someone takes him out, although just like with Johnson, his replacement could be worse. I think it might be better to let the whole thing collapse from within and have the Russians push for real change. Problem is that's only likely to happen if they get their arses handed to them in some capacity or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17744 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I think it might be better to let the whole thing collapse from within and have the Russians push for real change. Problem is that's only likely to happen if they get their arses handed to them in some capacity or another. They've already had their arses handed to them. The Russians are waking up to this. Mobilisation is the proof.of it. Putin is as finished as Truss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34413 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 From what I can gather, Ukraine have retaken one of the towns that Russia annexed yesterday (a little town by the name of Des Lynam). The Russian forces have pegged it. So it's either back to BAU in this war or time for some of you to start digging bunkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8870 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Renton said: I found the translation of that speech more reassuring than concerning. Only one reference to nukes, dating to WW2. If Japan can accept this and Germany with Dresden, I'm unsure of his point. Also he seems to forget Russia is a major part of the world order he is so paranoid about. It just sounds like the ramblings of a mad man. Somebody mentioned he would want to preserve his own life. Of so, he won't use nukes. Next thing is whether his chain of command would allow it. I personally doubt they would. I'm just sick of the cunt at this stage. The world has enough problems with pandemics, climate change, and other instabilities without this twat stirring the pot. I hope someone takes him out, although just like with Johnson, his replacement could be worse. If we are occupied then I am loving it tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9195 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 15 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: Too soon? Sorry here's some puppies to lighten the mood 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rayvin 4964 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/02/us-russia-putin-ukraine-war-david-petraeus 'The US and its allies would destroy Russia’s troops and equipment in Ukraine – as well as sink its Black Sea fleet – if Russian president Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons in the country, former CIA director and retired four-star army general David Petraeus warned on Sunday.' “Just to give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a Nato – a collective – effort that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea.” -- Petraeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17744 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, Rayvin said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/02/us-russia-putin-ukraine-war-david-petraeus 'The US and its allies would destroy Russia’s troops and equipment in Ukraine – as well as sink its Black Sea fleet – if Russian president Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons in the country, former CIA director and retired four-star army general David Petraeus warned on Sunday.' “Just to give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a Nato – a collective – effort that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea.” -- Petraeus The nuclear deteerent is so weird. As a naive kid, I supported CND and unilateral disarmanent. Then as a young adult, I began to think nuclear weapons were a crucial deterrent against soviet agression. Shortly the USSR fell, and I didn't think they were needed any more, but I still believed they had prevented WW3 during the cold war. And you could never disinvent them, so you're stuck with them. I still believe this. But now with Putin's Russia, I think they are a hindrance at best and a major threat at worst. Russian forces have shown themselves to be nowhere near the match of NATO, and I think Russia could be wiped off the map through conventional means with little loss to West Euopean and US life if it came to it. However, we can't go there because of the nuclear deterrent. I can't really see anyway there would not be a strategic nuclear war happened in the scenario above. I've learned as much as I can not to worry about these things though. What will be will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38733 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just make sure you’ve got plenty of white paint, masking tape, beans and a few spare doors. You’ll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19807 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Monkeys Fist said: Just make sure you’ve got plenty of white paint, masking tape, beans and a few spare doors. You’ll be fine. that booked scared me half to death as a kid. why my parents thought it was suitable reading for a 7 year-old is beyond me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38733 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: that booked scared me half to death as a kid. why my parents thought it was suitable reading for a 7 year-old is beyond me Explains your username quite nicely though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19807 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Dr Boom more like 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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