ewerk 26168 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13965 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Howay 12447 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 The amount of fucking self dealing this bloke will do while in office is unreal. Wasn't Ivanka sitting in on some meeting with a Japanese ambassador recently? The kid that's in charge of his "blind trust". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 The amount of fucking self dealing this bloke will do while in office is unreal. Wasn't Ivanka sitting in on some meeting with a Japanese ambassador recently? The kid that's in charge of his "blind trust". I think he's going to have to be very careful. He's not in office yet so all of this stuff we're seeing presently doesn't matter too much IMO, but as soon as he is, that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I think he's going to have to be very careful. He's not in office yet so all of this stuff we're seeing presently doesn't matter too much IMO, but as soon as he is, that's that. It all comes back to whether or not people will call him out on it, perhaps even having to take him to court over it. Then of course there is the issue of how much sway he holds over the courts, in particular will they cut him slack on things because he is President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19735 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Fuck me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19735 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Draining the swamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 It all comes back to whether or not people will call him out on it, perhaps even having to take him to court over it. Then of course there is the issue of how much sway he holds over the courts, in particular will they cut him slack on things because he is President? No chance, surely. The press would have a fucking field day. The best chance he'd have is to submit everything to democrat judges in the hope of looking impartial. I simply can't imagine that he would be able to get away with corruption on the scale that we're talking Surely not even in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13965 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/801369810709909504/photo/1 I reckon that clears everything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 He's going to be impeached. He is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 No chance, surely. The press would have a fucking field day. The best chance he'd have is to submit everything to democrat judges in the hope of looking impartial. I simply can't imagine that he would be able to get away with corruption on the scale that we're talking Surely not even in the US. Genuinely no idea but I'm not worried about out and out corruption of the courts more just a feeling of respect towards the office of president which leads to things going his way. He is appointing all these blokes that should not/would not be in very powerful positions so they'll feel indebted to him, we may see a similar crackers appointment into the supreme court, I think it could get very 'swampy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/801369810709909504/photo/1 I reckon that clears everything up. :lol: What was it Bannon said about him? Something along the lines of him being a fantastic speaker.... Aye, sure he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19735 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I've built a great great company. The best company. I'm great with companies, I know the best companies- believe me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30239 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I have massive debts, I have the best debts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 Trump knows better than most about conflict of interest. His lawyers have looked at it. George Bush senior signed into law in 1989 that a president can't have a conflict of interest. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-bush-ethics-exemption-231773 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 "I've built a very great company" this bloke got an Ivy league education ffs, they must have just gave him a pass in most of his classes as the way he speaks is ridiculous. Whatever you think of Obama it's going to be a big drop from him to Trumps babble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 The law's totally on my side: the president can't have a conflict of interest. I'd assumed that you'd have to set up some type of trust or whatever... and you don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) Trump knows better than most about conflict of interest. His lawyers have looked at it. George Bush senior signed into law in 1989 that a president can't have a conflict of interest. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-bush-ethics-exemption-231773 Staggering, tying that sort of exemption to a pay rise for congress. Interesting read, thanks HF. Fwiw I think we absolutely will see "brazen contempt" for the spirit of the law, this fucker is going to bend those laws so much it'll be the best bend you've ever saw, he is the greatest at bends. :lol: "Congress didn't initially show much interest in the Bush proposal, but eventually bundled it together with other reforms as a useful vehicle for the politically uncomfortable effort to boost lawmakers' pay." Well we don't really love it, maybe you should bundle in something that gives us more money? Yeah that would make me like it. Edited November 23, 2016 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 The problem with Trump is he's too gauche to do these things that have been lawful for 30 years quietly. He forces the public and media to look at what they've allowed to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 :lol: "Congress didn't initially show much interest in the Bush proposal, but eventually bundled it together with other reforms as a useful vehicle for the politically uncomfortable effort to boost lawmakers' pay." Well we don't really love it, maybe you should bundle in something that gives us more money? Yeah that would make me like it. That's fucking pathetic but appears to be exactly how it went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 The problem with Trump is he's too gauche to do these things that have been lawful for 30 years quietly. He forces the public and media to look at what they've allowed to happen. A problem for them and a good thing for us though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 The problem with Trump is he's too gauche to do these things that have been lawful for 30 years quietly. He forces the public and media to look at what they've allowed to happen. Agreed, we all know self-dealing etc happens but as you say he's just going to be out in the open and brash about it, people will take him to court and he'll win through exemptions that his legal team have already identified as the article you put up shows. One of the best videos to come out of the election was perhaps Donald jr completely missing the point of a blind trust and basically leaving it with "no we wont bring up anything to do with the company at the breakfast table, trust me" with that level of oversight who would worry eh? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 A problem for them and a good thing for us though, right? Aye, one tiny, miniscule positive in the cluster fuck of his election. Can't see it changing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 A problem for them and a good thing for us though, right? I suppose it will be if the next bloke comes in and actually does clean all this stuff up due to public backlash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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