Alex 30233 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 "The more I practice the luckier I get" I think Gary Lineker used the golf analogy years ago in relation to England saying they didn't specifically practice taking them, i.e. you can't replicate the pressure but that still doesn't stop Tiger Woods or whoever practicing a six-footer to win The Open over and over again. It reminded me of that because that's a quote from Gary Player isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Like I say, plenty of top, top teams have messed up penalty shoot outs. I think you'll find a lot of professionals will say that it's very hard to legislate for a shoot out. The obvious example that springs to mind is Baggio 94. Nobody can tell me he didn't practice enough pens - he was always his sides regular penalty taker and he was famous for being a model professional, very hard trainer and dedicated etc, and with the confidence of being the best player in the world at that time, with a track record of playing well under pressure and in big games. You could have had 3 Baggio's on that team and who's to say all 3 wouldn't have missed. It happens. I'll never criticise players for missing in penalty shoot outs. I think I'll stop here otherwise it's just going round in circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34166 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Hoping for the best definitely isn't working though. It can't all come down to luck on the day and who's the least nervy under pressure. If theres a mindset issue and they're all nervous nellies, fix it. That stuff can and should be worked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30233 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Like I say, plenty of top, top teams have messed up penalty shoot outs. I think you'll find a lot of professionals will say that it's very hard to legislate for a shoot out. The obvious example that springs to mind is Baggio 94. Nobody can tell me he didn't practice enough pens - he was always his sides regular penalty taker and he was famous for being a model professional, very hard trainer and dedicated etc, and with the confidence of being the best player in the world at that time, with a track record of playing well under pressure and in big games. You could have had 3 Baggio's on that team and who's to say all 3 wouldn't have missed. It happens. I'll never criticise players for missing in penalty shoot outs. I think I'll stop here otherwise it's just going round in circles. I largely agree with you fwiw, I was just reminded of that in relation to Ewerk's post. Also think there's something to be said for just leathering it when you're nervous too. Although Chris Waddle might disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34166 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I reckon I'd be toontastic's go-to penalty taker. I'm the Iceman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Hoping for the best definitely isn't working though. It can't all come down to luck on the day and who's the least nervy under pressure. If theres a mindset issue and they're all nervous nellies, fix it. That stuff can and should be worked on. Judging by the wastefulness of our shooting towards the end of the match (where it became noticeably worse), I think tiredness and fatigue had a lot to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26152 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I think Gary Lineker used the golf analogy years ago in relation to England saying they didn't specifically practice taking them, i.e. you can't replicate the pressure but that still doesn't stop Tiger Woods or whoever practicing a six-footer to win The Open over and over again. It reminded me of that because that's a quote from Gary Player isn't it? Well Gary Player has claimed it anyway. Though he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34166 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Judging by the wastefulness of our shooting towards the end of the match (where it became noticeably worse), I think tiredness and fatigue had a lot to do with it.Early nights will fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34166 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Well Gary Player has claimed it anyway. Though he would. "The more quotes I claim, the more quotes get attributed to me." Thats another of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26152 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I largely agree with you fwiw, I was just reminded of that in relation to Ewerk's post. Also think there's something to be said for just leathering it when you're nervous too. Although Chris Waddle might disagree. Absolutely. To be fair to Gayle he did try that and ended up 3 inches too high, hitting the bar and going out. Atsu hit the bar and went in, 3 inches difference over 12 yards... I don't know if the Hull players who scored would admit that their pens were within less than 3 inches of the spot they were aiming for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26152 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Absolutely. To be fair to Gayle he did try that and ended up 3 inches too high, hitting the bar and going out. Atsu hit the bar and went in, 3 inches difference over 12 yards... I don't know if the Hull players who scored would admit that their pens were within less than 3 inches of the spot they were aiming for. The inches we need are everywhere around us. They’re in every break of the game, every minute, every second. On this team, we fight for that inch. On this team, we tear ourselves and everyone else around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch, because we know when we add up all those inches that’s gonna make the fuckin' difference between winning and losing! Between livin' and dyin'! - Gary Player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34166 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 [emoji38] Some mouth on him, Player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 3 game ban I would think for the red card.A little help for the makems in their relegation fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30233 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 3 game ban I would think for the red card.A little help for the makems in their relegation fight. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26598 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Regarding our utter shitness at penalty shootouts, I'd say that there's definitely extra pressure at 'no trophies for forty odd years but still backed by a desperate to win crowd' NUFC. I'd sometimes they rather just thought 'fuck it, nothing to lose' and welly the fucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I just find it weird that we've never been good at pens, no matter what players are in the side. Even sides with class pen takers in we still seem to lose, suppose it's the same with England as well. Aye you can say it's nerves but other teams manage a lot better than NUFC and England, it's just odd. Fwiw I'd rather a player miss like Gayle than have an effort like Gouffrans, I get Dickies point but there's absolutely no defending that effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Rafa's going to have to get them back on track for the job in hand namely promotion. 2 defeats in 4 days with a game on Friday I'd imagine morales pretty low despite our position in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Are you ok? I can only assume you died in your sleep of some sort of hysteria-based malady, just wanted to check on you. A COWARD I tell thee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26152 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 West Ham drawing with Man U and Southampton 2 up at Arsenal. Could've been our year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Don't do it to yourself man.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19727 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Coulda shoulda woulda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I'm still in shock at the fact that Hull team are in the Premier League and the semi's of a cup. They are fucking garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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