adios 717 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 It's bizarre that the US is so far ahead of Europe on this issue. I don't think marijuana is some miracle drug with no trade off, but the downsides are so minor for some people that this would really help, it's depressing. LSD and MDMA have therapeutic value too, but that's a slightly tougher sell with more serious downsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3960 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 It's bizarre that the US is so far ahead of Europe on this issue. I don't think marijuana is some miracle drug with no trade off, but the downsides are so minor for some people that this would really help, it's depressing. LSD and MDMA have therapeutic value too, but that's a slightly tougher sell with more serious downsides. Ketamine as well - it's been shown to be useful treating alcoholism recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 And a lot of fun to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Isn't lsd safe as houses anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3960 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Isn't lsd safe as houses anyway?It's usually associated with "stunts" like jumping off buildings but to quote Bill Hicks, if you think you can fly try taking off from the ground otherwise you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5881 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 It depends on the THC level. High THC (skunk) gets you off your tits and is more likely to cause long standing psychosis and is fuck all use for Parkinson's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19735 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) If I was unfortunate enough to suffer from an intolerable disease like Parkinson's I reckon I'd take my chances with psychosis to treat my condition with a substance that grows naturally on the earth, while getting in the frame of mind for a Bruce lee movie and pizza marathon. Edited January 28, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26605 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 If I was unfortunate enough to suffer from an intolerable disease like Parkinson's I reckon I'd take my chances with psychosis to treat my condition with a substance that grows naturally on the earth, while getting in the frame of mind for a Bruce lee movie and pizza marathon.Wor lass is vehemently anti drugs and struggles to get around the house, (DWP think she's cush), the odd glass of wine/prossecco is her vice. We've kids so OK, but she was the same before kids and her condition deteriorated. I'd be off me tits if it was just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19735 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 What's her condition, if you don't mind me asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/what-weve-learned-from-giving-dolphins-lsd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Best headline I've read in a while, I might even read the article later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 John Oliver on marijuana legalization: 'This is genuinely worth worrying about' https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/apr/03/john-oliver-marijuana-legalization?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39516345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I have considered doing this when my current cocktail of meds craps out, so I've done a bit of research Very scientific research obviously. There was limited research done on therapeutic doses before it was made illegal with promising, but statistically insignificant, trials. Hofmann was very hopeful, and he seemed to have his head screwed on straight. You take between 10-20ug 2-3 times a week. You don't have to piss around cutting up tabs of differing quality and hoping they're always available. You can get microdoses ready to go very easily and reliably on the deep web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19735 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) Acid is probably the drug id least like to do every day - even in small doses Edited April 11, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I have considered doing this when my current cocktail of meds craps out, so I've done a bit of research Very scientific research obviously. There was limited research done on therapeutic doses before it was made illegal with promising, but statistically insignificant, trials. Hofmann was very hopeful, and he seemed to have his head screwed on straight. You take between 10-20ug 2-3 times a week. You don't have to piss around cutting up tabs of differing quality and hoping they're always available. You can get microdoses ready to go very easily and reliably on the deep web. Which condition are you medicating? If you don't mind my asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Apparently you don't even feel slightly tipsy until at least 30ug. Given a proper dose is more in the 100 - 200ug range. Obviously wouldn't be doing it just for a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Which condition are you medicating? If you don't mind my asking. Yeah no problem. I'm Bipolar II, Mixed Affective, though the particular strain probably means nothing to most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I see - if the drug is likely to help you self medicate and minimise the impact of the condition, you should be free to take it iyam. Stupid state of affairs all of this - I'd say it's a branding issue more than anything. Drugs = bad is a hard message to bring people back from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I would be very sceptical of it working over a long period. But if it comes to it, I don't think there's much harm in giving it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I see - if the drug is likely to help you self medicate and minimise the impact of the condition, you should be free to take it iyam. Stupid state of affairs all of this - I'd say it's a branding issue more than anything. Drugs = bad is a hard message to bring people back from. Aye, it's kind of understandable given the general ignorance around the subject (and it obviously needs to be handled with care). It's a bit hypocritical that we've got half of the US on heavy opiates at the same time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 LSD at recreational doses builds up tolerance quickly, requiring you to dose higher to get the same effects. Surely that'd be true of microdosing given how frequently they're dosing? I got some 1p-lsd before the psychoactive nanny state bill it was absolutely mint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 That's why you do it 2-3 times a week, not daily. Apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26605 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 LSD at recreational doses builds up tolerance quickly, requiring you to dose higher to get the same effects. Surely that'd be true of microdosing given how frequently they're dosing? I got some 1p-lsd before the psychoactive nanny state bill it was absolutely mintDid you ever microdose on Kamagra? No stotta on but a healthy enough twinge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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