Meenzer 14031 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'd move back in a flash if jobs/life took us there (well, him, really - I can work from anywhere with vaguely functional internet). It's a lot nicer than lots of British cities, it's well enough connected, and it's reasonably near to a lot of brilliant countryside, which is the kind of shit that becomes more important as you get older and boringer. (As a Gosforth lad I'd be looking on that side of town, but that probably goes without saying.) Though obviously I might have a less romantic view if we hadn't missed the boat on buying a place in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 How come? To settled down south or is it a career thing?This thing called a wife won't let him. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19816 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 It's a career thing. The Mrs is from up north too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34422 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 He's not qualified enough to steal Lee Ryder's job yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26291 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 What happened the San Fran plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19816 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Interview later this month. Otherwise its operation new Mike Neville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 You have the chance to go to San Francisco? That's amazing, I hope you get the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19816 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Thanks,@@Rayvin - there are a few moving parts at play so it's no guarantee I'll take it even if I'm offered it. Though it sounds like it's mine to lose. I went there last summer to do a proper recce and try to sell it to the wife but it didn't go exactly to plan. They have a real problem with unhinged homeless people. Makes you realise how important it is to have proper state provision for mental health that we take for granted in the uk. Apparently Regan cut funding to mental health institutions when he was governor. The result is you're never far from some intimidating, deranged crack addict pan handler stinking of piss and talking to themselves in SF city - even in the nice areas. All big cities have homeless people but it's something else in SF. Salary negotiations are going to be another stumbling block because of sterling's slump - i'd need a massive rise now to make it worthwhile. And the prospect of Trump in the White House doesn't make it more appealing either. Still fancy it though. We would probably try to relocate to East Bay or Marin, which is a different world. Edited January 12, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Sounds class that if you can make it work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Wow, didn't know that stuff about homeless people and so on though... I can see why your wife would be concerned about this. It's an amazing city from everything I hear but yeah, maybe if you can sit just outside of it and commute in or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19816 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 it's v expensive too. on par, or even more pricey than london. particularly when you take into account what has happend with sterling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Won't you be paid in dollars though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30382 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Won't you be paid in dollars though? He'll get sterling for the sale of his house though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19816 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 the salary is sterling, set to an annual exchange rate peg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19816 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 would probably rent out the house rather than sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 the salary is sterling, set to an annual exchange rate peg Can you ask to be paid in dollars? Why would you want to be paid Sterling when you're living in the US anyway...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19816 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 the money that comes out of the bank atm is dollars, obvs. but the base salary is sterling because it's a UK company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34422 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 They won't pay him in dollars cos then the company bears the cost of currency fluctuations. Doing it this way, Gloom bears the cost. His lunchtime bento box and mochachino will be costing him a different (but no less scandalous) amount every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 the money that comes out of the bank atm is dollars, obvs. but the base salary is sterling because it's a UK company. Ahh I'm with you now. That should be an easy enough discussion though, they could just set the exchange rate for your salary payment at whatever it would have been 6 months ago rather than basing it on the live rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 They won't pay him in dollars cos then the company bears the cost of currency fluctuations. Doing it this way, Gloom bears the cost. His lunchtime bento box and mochachino will be costing him a different (but no less scandalous) amount every day. Any fair minded company would honour the rate they intended to pay in the first instance. They have a dollar account if they're paying him in dollars, so they wouldn't incur any exchange rate costs for paying him. Admittedly it'd be a higher dollar amount, but ffs they must appreciate the position any of their staff would be in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34422 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The contract is to pay him in sterling at a certain rate. They're honouring that by paying him in sterling at that rate. They're being fair by adjusting the exchange rate peg annually and letting him suffer the short term fluctuations in exchange rates. Now that is just about enough from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19816 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 that's why it's all up in the air. i'd be looking for a salary increase of about 30%, after what's happened to sterling, instead of the usual 10-15, which would result in a real terms pay cut. but if i got that they'd arguably insist on a big pay cut if i were to move back to the UK. the one caveat is they offer a generous housing allowance on their expat package, which more or less takes care of rent. and i know this is what they're going to throw back at me if i dig in and try to demand an outlandish pay rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The contract is to pay him in sterling at a certain rate. They're honouring that by paying him in sterling at that rate. They're being fair by adjusting the exchange rate peg annually and letting him suffer the short term fluctuations in exchange rates. Now that is just about enough from you. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Probably get shot jumping a red light innit. /Cops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 that's why it's all up in the air. i'd be looking for a salary increase of about 30%, after what's happened to sterling, instead of the usual 10-15, which would result in a real terms pay cut. but if i got that they'd arguably insist on a big pay cut if i were to move back to the UK. the one caveat is they offer a generous housing allowance on their expat package, which more or less takes care of rent. and i know this is what they're going to throw back at me if i dig in and try to demand an outlandish pay rise. At the risk of angering Gemmill, that housing package was on the table with the original offer, and so you can still honestly claim you're 30% down on expected income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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