trooper 940 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Sorry about that gentlemen I thought they played Friday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19717 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I thought I'd taken one too many Valium for a minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I could have sworn I'd seen something during the day ah well never mind today it is then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8936 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 /nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Our defending corners & set pieces is a worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8936 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Our defending corners & set pieces is a worry I'm not sure it is, we're decent at defending on the whole and certainly not what I'd consider weak at defending set pieces. I think the problem is that we don't concede many goals, so every goal conceded is scrutinised. I'd also say that set-pieces are the great leveller, Man City and Arsenal can come unstuck because West Brom have fielded 6 centre backs who can all bully the elfin midfielders of those title chasing teams. I can't find stats on it, but I don't think we've conceded a large number of set-piece goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure it is, we're decent at defending on the whole and certainly not what I'd consider weak at defending set pieces. I think the problem is that we don't concede many goals, so every goal conceded is scrutinised. I'd also say that set-pieces are the great leveller, Man City and Arsenal can come unstuck because West Brom have fielded 6 centre backs who can all bully the elfin midfielders of those title chasing teams. I can't find stats on it, but I don't think we've conceded a large number of set-piece goals. QPR's first Oxford's 3 all concede from corners were our defending was a joke. Two out of the last games 3 games it's a worry its getting too regular. Edited February 11, 2017 by trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8936 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 QPR's first Oxford's 3 all concede from corners were our defending was a joke. Two out of the last games 3 games it's a worry its getting too regular. Oxford's three came in the cup against our 3rd string. Curtis Good was playing ffs, and any goal conceded while Sels is in between the sticks is not relevant. Like I say though, when the rest of our defending is decent in this league, Set Pieces will always be the oppositions best chance of scoring against us. I wouldn't worry about it too much mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26587 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I'm not sure it is, we're decent at defending on the whole and certainly not what I'd consider weak at defending set pieces. I think the problem is that we don't concede many goals, so every goal conceded is scrutinised. I'd also say that set-pieces are the great leveller, Man City and Arsenal can come unstuck because West Brom have fielded 6 centre backs who can all bully the elfin midfielders of those title chasing teams. I can't find stats on it, but I don't think we've conceded a large number of set-piece goals. We've gotten away with a few this season through rank bad finishing which would've been punished in a higher division. Not saying it's panic stations this year but the defensive part of our side needs looked at should we go up, (the bonus, if we keep Rafa, is that recruits will go into a well drilled side who know their jobs so should integrate that bit easier.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8936 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 We've gotten away with a few this season through rank bad finishing which would've been punished in a higher division. Not saying it's panic stations this year but the defensive part of our side needs looked at should we go up, (the bonus, if we keep Rafa, is that recruits will go into a well drilled side who know their jobs so should integrate that bit easier.). Absolutely need to improve our defending in the top flight, but at this level, we're grand. Only Derby have conceded fewer goals than we have and while much of that will be because we're comfortably one of the best teams in the division, I do think that the system Benitez employs is pragmatic before anything else. Hopefully we'll improve the standard of defenders for the Premier League, as the thought of Sanchez or Aguero running at Hanley and Dummett fills me with dread Also, if we improve across the squad, we could hold the ball better and thus invite less pressure on our defensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19717 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I think we're going to need close to an entirely new back line next season if we go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I still think it'll take a major overhaul & a canny spend to bring us up to the standard Rafa will want in the Premiership. That could bring major conflict between Ashley & Rafa. But that's for another day the main thing today is 3 points it feels like the pack below us seem to be closing in every time I look at the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 W% when on Sky 40% (10 games)W% when not on Sky 86% (18 games) On TV; Fulham L, Brighton W, Derby W, Villa D, Leeds W, Forest L, Sheff Wed L, Blackburn L. Wigan W. QPR D. Starting today 3 of our next 5 games are on SKY Wolves (a) Sky Norwich (a) Villa (h) Sky Bristol City (h) Brighton (a) Sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17531 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Pretty sure Barry was a West Brom fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3954 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Pretty sure Barry was a West Brom fan.He mentioned his account in the West Bromwich and District building society but I think wolves were his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8936 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I think we're going to need close to an entirely new back line next season if we go up. I think Yedlin, Clark, Mbemba and maybe Clark and LAscelles would be enough for safety. I still think it'll take a major overhaul & a canny spend to bring us up to the standard Rafa will want in the Premiership. That could bring major conflict between Ashley & Rafa. But that's for another day the main thing today is 3 points it feels like the pack below us seem to be closing in every time I look at the table. Rafa built a side to win the championship, I reckon he'll build a side that can get us safe next year, then build on that over the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19717 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Enough for safety? Reach for the stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I'm personally not convinced any pairing out of those three is strong enough for the PL, I'd happily be proven wrong but I'd rather see us go out and get at least one decent PL-level CB. Lascelles looks shaky as it is in this division, Mbemba is going to have basically a full season without a start if it keeps up like this, and Clark has never looked good at Premier League level, of course coaching from Rafa could improve Clark but I think going into a Premier League season with only the four senior CB's we have at the moment would be massively risky. Yedlin was okay at the Mackems and I think he has improved but obviously Dummett needs improved upon (which is why you've omitted him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 0-2 to the team obsessed with Andros Townsend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19717 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Pleased to see mitro retain his place. Disappointed to see the ginger pirlo starting again. Is Hayden goosed or something? If not it's a head scratcher from Rafa. Other than that it's as expected. Though I would have liked to see Atsu start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 If I could ask Rafa one question, it would be 'wtf do you see in Colback?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Well we know what we've got to do, take all 3 points we've now got 'uddersfield breathing down Wor necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Pleased to see mitro retain his place. Disappointed to see the ginger pirlo starting again. Is Hayden goosed or something? If not it's a head scratcher from Rafa. Other than that it's as expected. Though I would have liked to see Atsu start. Rafa may not have had a choice with Gayle still recovering. But I hope you're right and he takes this chance. Not sure how many more he has, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16468 Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Colback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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