Howay 12452 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 It doesn't bother me at all personally Noelie was more just giving a reason why people lump on you a bit. In fact I think it provides a differing opinion as otherwise it would just be a bit boring on here. I also said I think they're perfectly fine to have pops at your opinion, I agree with you that having pops at you personally is a bit ott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12763 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 If it gets to the 12th of August and nobody else has come in, then I think it's probably fine to panic a bit. I imagine the players and staff are all on their holidays, let them have some time off, man. It was always going to be slow until the beginning of July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 hours ago, adios said: No offence meant, @Noelie; all meant in good humour. No offence taken, always taken in good humour unless it's obviously not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 The drama in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Article in the Chronicle written by Andrew Musgrove titled........... Newcastle United has all the ingredients for success, but the fans need to see transfer movement. Read it and see where I am coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 12 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: If it gets to the 12th of August and nobody else has come in, then I think it's probably fine to panic a bit. I imagine the players and staff are all on their holidays, let them have some time off, man. It was always going to be slow until the beginning of July. We've spent ten years lamenting that this is what we do. No urgency whatsoever from the club. Define one or two targets for a position and if they fail to get them in August, wait until the next window. It doesn't even hold water as the free transfers and loans we've been after have failed to come off because the players have gone elsewhere. Those clubs/players aren't sitting enjoying the sun and leaving it until later. Rafa is clearly looking to turn around that culture at Newcastle and meeting resistance, not least from fans who (remarkably) can't imagine that Ashley might mot be as proactive as Benitez would like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Ashley has sent for a new fixer so all will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26282 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 What makes you think that Ashley has anything to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, ewerk said: What makes you think that Ashley has anything to do with it? Ashley's the only constant over the past 10 years. Wise, Llambias, Kinnear, Charnley... they all do his bidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5902 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 13 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: If it gets to the 12th of August and nobody else has come in, then I think it's probably fine to panic a bit. I imagine the players and staff are all on their holidays, let them have some time off, man. It was always going to be slow until the beginning of July. Well the squads back at pre season a week tomorrow, with our first game 10 days after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26282 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 47 minutes ago, Happy Face said: Ashley's the only constant over the past 10 years. Wise, Llambias, Kinnear, Charnley... they all do his bidding. You think it's a deliberate ploy from Ashley to avoid spending money? I'd say it's more likely to do with Charnley's incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 33 minutes ago, ewerk said: You think it's a deliberate ploy from Ashley to avoid spending money? I'd say it's more likely to do with Charnley's incompetence. No doubt Charnley's incompetent. I don't think Ashley gets involved with negotiations either. But he lays down conditions that Charnley has to abide by which tie his hands. He also signs the contracts when we sign high wage earners and has to be on board before we go ahead. Similar story to Carr who gets dogs abuse for Riviere and Saivet and De Jong and Thauvin and Cabella etc. He might deserve some criticism for even suggesting them as options, but when the club walks away from Lacazette, Aubameyang and Alli... there's only so many great players that no other club has cottoned onto yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26282 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Yeah but I would have thought that the budget and guidelines would have been agreed by Rafa and Ashley at their end of season meeting so I don't see how there could be any confusion over conditions and player criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5902 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 24 minutes ago, Happy Face said: No doubt Charnley's incompetent. I don't think Ashley gets involved with negotiations either. But he lays down conditions that Charnley has to abide by which tie his hands. He also signs the contracts when we sign high wage earners and has to be on board before we go ahead. Similar story to Carr who gets dogs abuse for Riviere and Saivet and De Jong and Thauvin and Cabella etc. He might deserve some criticism for even suggesting them as options, but when the club walks away from Lacazette, Aubameyang and Alli... there's only so many great players that no other club has cottoned onto yet. Tbf Dele Alli chose Spurs over us rather than us walking away from the deal. You can't really blame him either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13836 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 A move here wouldn't have worked well for him. "Well we've agreed a loan...Dele has to learn to work hard and track back and I can't think of a better place to do that than Barnsley" - Alternative Universe Pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tom said: A move here wouldn't have worked well for him. "Well we've agreed a loan...Dele has to learn to work hard and track back and I can't think of a better place to do that than Barnsley" - Alternative Universe Pardew Bet he talks to himself while he shaves. /Pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, ewerk said: Yeah but I would have thought that the budget and guidelines would have been agreed by Rafa and Ashley at their end of season meeting so I don't see how there could be any confusion over conditions and player criteria. Well you would have thought wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26282 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 There's a first time for everything I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: There's a first time for everything I suppose. No doubt Ashley has given assurances but in the real world they probably don't mean shit. Let's see what Benny says in his next couple of interviews. If 2/3 good players come in then we can all relax... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 It's quite possible that he's learned from the January window that he needs to make noises about a lack of activity sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5902 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 The worry is the sheer volume of players we need in. The bare minimum is CB to play with Clark LB CM to play with Shelvey LW CF to play with Gayle to push the following onto the bench Lascelles Dummet Diame Atsu Perez/Mitro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 It must be getting frustrating for Rafa, nobody in yet except Atsu, and he had said he wanted new players in quickly. I think part of the problem lies with agents and players who are trying to negotiate terms above and beyond what they're worth. What's equally frustrating is when you read we have made an approach for a player and his club states there has been no bids from anyone including us. I honestly thought we would have had some new faces by now based on all the hype of Rafa being a drawing card, Ashley's promise to spend, a great fan base, and Premier League status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5902 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 When Harry Maguire goes for £17mil you know the days of getting a Cabaye or Tiote for £6mil are over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
247 597 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: The worry is the sheer volume of players we need in. The bare minimum is CB to play with Clark LB CM to play with Shelvey LW CF to play with Gayle to push the following onto the bench Lascelles Dummet Diame Atsu Perez/Mitro I fully expect Rafa to start Lascelles over Clark because of his age and 'potential' and im 90% sure we will be starting with 1 up top again which will most likely be Gayle imo, it would be harsh as fuck to drop him after last season and his confidence must be high.. he has to be given the chance to start for a while at the very least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4847 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) David Kelly scenario. Good in the championship but not good enough to lead the line the PL. He'd be decent to throw on as sub though. Edited June 26, 2017 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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