Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

I remember when it was the top two/big two (Liverpool and Man Utd).The top/big four ( Man Utd,Liverpool.Arsenal and Chelsea).In the last 25 seasons Tottenham have finished outside the top six more than inside.Can you be relegated from the top/big six?

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3180]

4 minutes ago, essembeeofsunderland said:

I remember when it was the top two/big two (Liverpool and Man Utd).The top/big four ( Man Utd,Liverpool.Arsenal and Chelsea).In the last 25 seasons Tottenham have finished outside the top six more than inside.Can you be relegated from the top/big six?

 

Haha in the last 25 seasons fuck me that's reaching. in the last 12 years they have finished outside the top 6 twice. If they went on a run and stopped finishing in the top 6 for 3-4 years and we took their place. How pissed off would you be if someone called us one of the top 6.

 

I remember when the big two were Liverpool and Nottingham.

Edited October 4, 2017 by Kevin Carr's Gloves

[The Fish 8946]

Our Wearside focussed friend does kind of have a point though. The "Big/Top" group has swelled over the past decade or so. 

 

Was recently a “Top 3” of Arsenal, Man Utd and maybe Liverpool. Then Chelsea joined the “Big 4” party soon after 20013 2003 thanks to Abramovich, and Man Utd’s noisy neighbours paid for their admission to the “Top 5” around 2008.

It’s now stretched to the Big 6 because of Spurs’ methodical and sustained improvement.

 

Could the Big Top stretch once more to accommodate another team? If so, why not a resuscitated NUFC? I mean if any team should be in the Big Top it’s the circus that is Newcastle United.

[ohhh_yeah 2759]

 

Staveley and "Big/Top 7" works for me.

 

 

[Rayvin 4949]

It's an investment firm mind... presumably her aim would be to make us more valuable. Turn profits as well.

 

I daresay she has access to far superior commercial people than Ashley, but even so, the model might not change much.

[ewerk 26142]

She wouldn't be buying us as an investment. Most likely facilitating a deal for a client of hers who wants to spunk trillions of dirty oil money dollars at a club in the NE of England.

[Ayatollah Hermione 12733]

If Liverpool finished 11th, it would be the top 11.

[The Fish 8946]

11 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

It's an investment firm mind... presumably her aim would be to make us more valuable. Turn profits as well.

 

I daresay she has access to far superior commercial people than Ashley, but even so, the model might not change much.

 

The model isn't a massive problem if it's matched with ambition. Scouring other markets for value is fine if you're doing that to improve the first team. Selling a player for a huge profit is fine if you use the monies to improve the first team. The issue lies when player sales are used solely to turn a profit/pay bills.

 

Just think of the teams we could have had if we hadn't seen the turnover of players we had (and hadn’t had the managers we’ve had).

 

Selling Carroll for £35m is fine if you bring in Ba, selling Sissoko for a daft profit is fine if his departure doesn’t leave you imbalanced. The issue lies in buying a slight French attacking midfielder when it’s clear you need a centre half. Buying him because there’s a greater premium on attacking players, than defensive ones.

[Alex 30224]

Basically, the model's alright if you've got somebody like Benitez with a big say in who goes and who comes in.

[The Fish 8946]

Aye, it's not been spoken about much, but he's key to our future. 

[Tom 13804]

 

51 minutes ago, ewerk said:

She wouldn't be buying us as an investment. Most likely facilitating a deal for a client of hers who wants to spunk trillions of dirty oil money dollars at a club in the NE of England.

 

 

[Dr Gloom 19720]

remember how much every supporter of a rival club watched with envy as chelsea and man u were taken by oil rich billionaires of dubious moral background, spunking record fees and wages on world class players? 

 

it's spoiling football! they bought the title, we cried.

 

deep down we would have all loved to have been in their position. 

Edited October 4, 2017 by Dr Gloom

[Andrew 4183]

No deep down about it.

 

One oil rich billionaire loon please!

 

Those first couple of seasons of Chelsea or City doing it were quite entertaining, Chelsea perhaps less so since they were starting from a higher position than city but still...

Imagine the Tevez/Toure/Silva coming here and still having to mix in the squad with Paul Dummet, brilliant. 

[Meenzer 13932]

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/fifa-world-cup/4/blog/post/3219462/conmebol-in-south-america-is-world-cup-qualifying-toughest-region

[The Fish 8946]

23 minutes ago, Andrew said:

No deep down about it.

 

One oil rich billionaire loon please!

 

Those first couple of seasons of Chelsea or City doing it were quite entertaining, Chelsea perhaps less so since they were starting from a higher position than city but still...

Imagine the Tevez/Toure/Silva coming here and still having to mix in the squad with Paul Dummet, brilliant. 

 

 

 

Aubameyang tapping Benzema on the shoulder "I think the training ground is haunted. I keep seeing a pale ginger figure wandering the halls wailing about having to move to Hell"

[Rayvin 4949]

Sky are planning to schedule our away game against West Ham on Christmas Eve. 560 mile round trip, the day before Christmas. How long before we have live football on Christmas day, I wonder.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/media/blog/2017/oct/05/premier-league-christmas-eve-west-ham-newcastle-arsenal-liverpool-sky-sports

[David Kelly 1115]

Weren't there regular Christmas Day games in the past?  Where we (those of us who haven't migrated South) live means it's a bit of a fuck on to travel anywhere for any away match.  I've got a ticket to Man U next month and it's about £70 for the train or a three hour dive (longer in the bus) and no drinking.  But the authorities give us no consideration whatsover  (three of our four longest away treks this season have been moved to four o'clock on a Sunday.  No doubt Bournemouth with have some other ridiculous kick off).

We should get medals for following the club all over the country but we just get shit on as per.

[The Fish 8946]

52 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

Weren't there regular Christmas Day games in the past?  Where we (those of us who haven't migrated South) live means it's a bit of a fuck on to travel anywhere for any away match.  I've got a ticket to Man U next month and it's about £70 for the train or a three hour dive (longer in the bus) and no drinking.  But the authorities give us no consideration whatsover  (three of our four longest away treks this season have been moved to four o'clock on a Sunday.  No doubt Bournemouth with have some other ridiculous kick off).

We should get medals for following the club all over the country but we just get shit on as per.

 

Must be because outside the top clubs, we're one of the biggest audience draws? Proven by our high viewer figures while in the Championship?

 

Which is undoubtedly shit for the majority of fans who want to get to an away game.

[Alex 30224]

1 hour ago, David Kelly said:

Weren't there regular Christmas Day games in the past?  Where we (those of us who haven't migrated South) live means it's a bit of a fuck on to travel anywhere for any away match.  I've got a ticket to Man U next month and it's about £70 for the train or a three hour dive (longer in the bus) and no drinking.  But the authorities give us no consideration whatsover  (three of our four longest away treks this season have been moved to four o'clock on a Sunday.  No doubt Bournemouth with have some other ridiculous kick off).

We should get medals for following the club all over the country but we just get shit on as per.

There used to be games on Xmas Day, aye. Probably have to go back to something like the 40s or 50s but there used to be a full programme of matches in the top flight I believe (weather permitting).

[Rayvin 4949]

Huh... fair enough then I guess. Still seems a bit off, but maybe I just like a good whinge at Sky.

[Alex 30224]

Just now, Rayvin said:

Huh... fair enough then I guess. Still seems a bit off, but maybe I just like a good whinge at Sky.

Just looked it up. Last full schedule in England was 1957 but Blackpool kept the tradition going until the 60s. It still occurred in Scotland as recently as the 70s. The only reason it stopped was because transport workers started to be given the day off so the 'bumper holiday crowds' it attracted would've found it more difficult to get there. I suppose because no ones gives a shit about the match-attendees any more it'll perhaps only be a matter of time.

[The Fish 8946]

I'm in favour of anything that gets me out of playing fucking board games on Christmas day.

Edited October 5, 2017 by The Fish

[LooneyToony 41]

40 minutes ago, The Fish said:

I'm in favour of anything that gets me out of playing fucking board games on Christmas day.

 

If you're looking to spice things up you might want to try XXXopoly.  You are going to need a willing partner, of course.  Also, you'll get more enjoyment out of the game if you have some lubricant and a couple of dildos (for the ladies, gentlemen).  May I suggest the rabbit vibrator with double stimulation and six vibrational settings?  It's also waterproof. 

[Alex 30224]

Well they do say incest is a game for all the family

[Ayatollah Hermione 12733]

He's a Looney Tooney, alright!!!! Mad!