Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER

[Ayatollah Hermione 12733]

 

Watched this this morning from that list of documentaries Alex posted and bring back increasingly violent on-field rivalries, I say. 

[Kid Dynamite 5874]

I see the Premier League players have agreed to club together and donate £4mil to charity rather than take a 30% wage cut.

 

Being cynical...

 

20 x premier league clubs

25 x players per first team squad 

 

= 500 players in the premier league 

 

£4mil / 500 players = £8000 each

 

A days wage for most of them. 

 

 

Edited April 9, 2020 by Kid Dynamite

[ewerk 26111]

Is that all it is? £4m?

Danny Rose spent more than that on pizzas.

Edited April 9, 2020 by ewerk

[strawb 3648]

Has anyone else donated a days wage?

[ewerk 26111]

It’s the first thing I plan to do when I hit £100k pw in wages.

[Ayatollah Hermione 12733]

Has any other sportsman on more obscene money than a Premier League footballer donated anything? 

[ewerk 26111]

Just now, Ayatollah Hermione said:

Has any other sportsman on more obscene money than a Premier League footballer donated anything? 

Yes.

[ewerk 26111]

I haven’t seen the £4m figure reported anywhere. My understanding was there was no set amount and players could donate to it anonymously.

[Kid Dynamite 5874]

40 minutes ago, strawb said:

Has anyone else donated a days wage?

I donate money to charity out of my wage every month 

 

 

[Kid Dynamite 5874]

16 minutes ago, ewerk said:

I haven’t seen the £4m figure reported anywhere. My understanding was there was no set amount and players could donate to it anonymously.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11358506/premier-league-captains-donation-nhs-coronavirus/

[Kid Dynamite 5874]

Southampton leading the way. All first team

players, coaches and directors have taken a pay cut so that the rest of the clubs employees can receive a full time wage for the foreseeable future. 
 

 

[Alex 30212]

3 hours ago, strawb said:

Has anyone else donated a days wage?

Do you really think it’s comparable? I take the point about them being made scapegoats because they’re an easy target but they haven’t exactly helped themselves with a fairly empty gesture

[wykikitoon 16463]

3 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Southampton leading the way. All first team

players, coaches and directors have taken a pay cut so that the rest of the clubs employees can receive a full time wage for the foreseeable future. 
 

 

EFL Clubs did that two weeks ago.  IIRC Leeds United did it first.

[strawb 3648]

1 hour ago, Alex said:

Do you really think it’s comparable? I take the point about them being made scapegoats because they’re an easy target but they haven’t exactly helped themselves with a fairly empty gesture

Yeah I do. 
 

They are all PAYE employees who pay loads in tax already and now they are making a charitable donation as a group.

 

The fact clubs are furloughing non playing staff and not players sticks in my craw a bit but that’s not the players decision it’s the clubs.

 

Lets see if other multimillionaires club together and donate their money on top of the taxes they probably don’t pay. 
 

Footballers are the easiest of targets.

[ewerk 26111]

[Monkeys Fist 38507]

27 minutes ago, strawb said:

Yeah I do. 
 

They are all PAYE employees who pay loads in tax already and now they are making a charitable donation as a group.

 

The fact clubs are furloughing non playing staff and not players sticks in my craw a bit but that’s not the players decision it’s the clubs.

 

Lets see if other multimillionaires club together and donate their money on top of the taxes they probably don’t pay. 
 

Footballers are the easiest of targets.

I won’t mention the totally coincidental fact that a lot of these lads are working class, or black, or both. 
Curious that Hancock isn’t asking his white, upper-class paymasters working in banking and finance, who’ll be raking in similar eye-bleeding amounts in wages, to even think about contributing anything. 
 

Total coincidence though.

 

[wykikitoon 16463]

 

[wykikitoon 16463]

58 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

I won’t mention the totally coincidental fact that a lot of these lads are working class, or black, or both. 
Curious that Hancock isn’t asking his white, upper-class paymasters working in banking and finance, who’ll be raking in similar eye-bleeding amounts in wages, to even think about contributing anything. 
 

Total coincidence though.

 

 

No instead they will fucking bail out their airlines of maybe give Dyson a job of making ventilators etc.

[Alex 30212]

1 hour ago, strawb said:

Yeah I do. 
 

They are all PAYE employees who pay loads in tax already and now they are making a charitable donation as a group.

 

The fact clubs are furloughing non playing staff and not players sticks in my craw a bit but that’s not the players decision it’s the clubs.

 

Lets see if other multimillionaires club together and donate their money on top of the taxes they probably don’t pay. 
 

Footballers are the easiest of targets.

I mainly agree, apart from a day’s wages meaning as much to them. I’ve already said the owners are the ones taking the piss. And like MF alludes to, rugby players aren’t being mentioned. I know it’s not as popular or has comparable revenues but I doubt that’s the only reason 

[Kid Dynamite 5874]

Tbf to Hancock, his initial comment was answering a question the press put to him. 

[Monkeys Fist 38507]

9 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Tbf to Hancock, his initial comment was answering a question the press put to him. 

Do you know what the original question was? 
If, as I suspect, it was along the lines of “should Premier League footballers take a pay cut to cover their lesser-paid club colleague’s wages” then he could’ve said

” That’s not really for me to say, I’m the Health Secretary”

 

[Kid Dynamite 5874]

He could have. There’s a middle ground to this argument though.
 

It stinks that clubs are furloughing staff and the multimillionaire players at the clubs haven’t lost a penny despite not actually working for a living currently. A month down the line, after a load of media pressure, they offer a days wages and then shit on about it all over social media like they’ve just cured cancer 

[Monkeys Fist 38507]

You’re not entirely wrong mate, I mostly agree with you, but I fail to see how the it’s the responsibility of PL footballers to cover their colleagues wages, when it should have been the responsibility of their mutual employer. 
More to the point, I fail to see why people can’t see that they’re being used as outrage sponges to deflect anger away from the Govt’s criminal handling of this crisis. 
 

[Alex 30212]

22 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

He could have. There’s a middle ground to this argument though.
 

It stinks that clubs are furloughing staff and the multimillionaire players at the clubs haven’t lost a penny despite not actually working for a living currently. A month down the line, after a load of media pressure, they offer a days wages and then shit on about it all over social media like they’ve just cured cancer 

 nicely put 

[Monkeys Fist 38507]

Following the above argument, shouldn’t Rees Mogg and his elite MP chums be paying the costs of the less well-off MPs to avoid this kind of fucking joke? 
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/mps-given-an-extra-10000-to-work-from-home/09/04/?fbclid=IwAR1x-OQ3GgJmCaGdqmIq1EOf5eCcdYeXZ3jezApGcMsFY845AuB06aqHDcA