Alex 6,129 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 No way was Rooney more technically gifted 1 Link to post Share on other sites
essembeeofsunderland 430 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Shearer.First game 26th March 1988 Shearer Last game 17th April 2006 18 seasons ( he only played 5 games in his first season ) 734 app 379 goals in his career. Shearer.Averaged 21 goals a season over 18 seasons. Not bad Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 3,161 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 46 minutes ago, Alex said: No way was Rooney more technically gifted depends on how you define technically gifted, i suppose. shearer was the best crosser of the ball for a lot of his time at the club, and was the better finisher, but rooney was the better passer and dribbler. Link to post Share on other sites
Monkeys Fist 7,586 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 “ He’s our best defender” was a very commonly stated phrase when Shearer was playing for us. Not saying he was Ronaldo, but he was so much more than “just” a goal scorer. Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 6,129 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Better dribbler although that was soon coached out of his game. Shearer could do just about everything else better or as well before the Everton injury. Immaculate first touch, great shooting in open play from set pieces, better header of the ball. In terms of his technique he’s underrated. That’s not a pop at Rooney. Actually take the two at their best and they’d have been an unbelievable partnership. I always felt Rooney was / should’ve always been a no 10 Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 6,129 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 That friendly against Argentina where Rooney played as a second striker / in the hole. Riquelme played in the same position for them. Riquelme was easier on the eye but Rooney was better doing everything quickly with the minimum of fuss. Not like later in his career when he slowed play down too much and wanted to spray the ball 50 yards. Reminded me of a serie a game I saw years ago. Ortega played as Parma’s no 10 and Boban played there for Milan. Every time Ortega got the ball he had about 5 touches and tried to beat a man before releasing the ball. Boban did everything one or two touch and was superbly effective by comparison. Milan won Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 6,129 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 17 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: “ He’s our best defender” was a very commonly stated phrase when Shearer was playing for us. Not saying he was Ronaldo, but he was so much more than “just” a goal scorer. He was fast before his injuries caught up with him. Not lightning quick but if he got the wrong side of the defender, they were fucked. Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 846 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 34 minutes ago, Alex said: Better dribbler although that was soon coached out of his game. Shearer could do just about everything else better or as well before the Everton injury. Immaculate first touch, great shooting in open play from set pieces, better header of the ball. In terms of his technique he’s underrated. That’s not a pop at Rooney. Actually take the two at their best and they’d have been an unbelievable partnership. I always felt Rooney was / should’ve always been a no 10 Even then Rooney's ability to get past a man wasn't like Ben Arfa or Messi. It was a quick movement then a burst of acceleration, coupled with good strength and low centre of balance. Like you reference in the comparison between him and Riquelme, he would choose the option that was more efficient. Agree that Rooney and Shearer would have worked well together, even if that meant Rooney would score fewer goals. Link to post Share on other sites
PaddockLad 2,876 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 If Harry Kane's hamstrings stand up to it he could beat Shearer's total...think it gets missed sometimes how good that weird sounding cockney twat is... https://www.football365.com/news/portrait-of-an-icon-alan-shearer 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Meenzer 4,349 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Alex said: He was fast before his injuries caught up with him. Not lightning quick but if he got the wrong side of the defender, they were fucked. Aye, you really notice it in some of the Southampton/Blackburn clips you see in particular. Not that he was a slouch for us, but christ, if we'd been able to get him even one year earlier... 🙈 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Gman 28 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Ciaran Clark has signed a new two year deal. I mean, cool I guess. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 3,161 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Like a new signing. Link to post Share on other sites
essembeeofsunderland 430 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 5 hours ago, Gman said: Ciaran Clark has signed a new two year deal. I mean, cool I guess. He’s our best natural defender with Dummitt a close second. Link to post Share on other sites
RobinRobin 492 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Like a new signing. Given his age, this is completely against previous club policy, and if you think that he would have got a new contract if Rafa was still there, you're dreaming. Not that I have anything against Clark as a player, as he has been playing pretty well in a shite team, but this is worrying because Penfold is clearly still fully backing the Cabbage, when he should be looking for a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 6,129 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 He only looks like the best of the bunch because he’s an old-fashioned centre-half in a struggling, disorganised defence tbh 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Gman 28 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I like Clark, he's the kind of "get stuck in" type defender you need near the bottom, but I do get the feeling that he's the sort of player that if he stays in our first XI we'll always be limited to the bottom 6 clubs, a general mentality and ability combination. I say this as if there's a grand plan for us to push up the league, but still! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ayatollah Hermione 3,917 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 One of the more pleasant surprises in recent years where signings have been concerned at the very least. Everyone was writing him off but he’s been perfectly solid for the most part. Always good for a couple of goals a season up the other end too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
essembeeofsunderland 430 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 11 hours ago, Alex said: He only looks like the best of the bunch because he’s an old-fashioned centre-half in a struggling, disorganised defence tbh He’s an old fashioned centre half who have all but gone out the game.We defend so much he’s the type of defender we rely on.If we had decent defensive midfield players ,and two fullbacks who could defend ,we only have Dummitt,we could look to play with a better ‘footballing’ central defender.We’re a long way off that.The option is to play TOT. No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
essembeeofsunderland 430 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: One of the more pleasant surprises in recent years where signings have been concerned at the very least. Everyone was writing him off but he’s been perfectly solid for the most part. Always good for a couple of goals a season up the other end too. Like Big Andy,he wants to win headers in both boxes.That’s why they stand out.We don’t have much else in our locker if you take Wilson out of the equation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 6,129 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I like Clark but I just meant he shines because of the pressure the defence is under. He’s limited but good at what he does 2 Link to post Share on other sites
essembeeofsunderland 430 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Alex said: I like Clark but I just meant he shines because of the pressure the defence is under. He’s limited but good at what he does I agree 100% .I wish I had a tanner for every cross that comes into our box. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Isegrim 2,033 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Maybe we can offer Liverpool to swap managers? Link to post Share on other sites
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essembeeofsunderland 430 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Oh dear. Link to post Share on other sites
Kid Dynamite 1,264 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Form table is worse Link to post Share on other sites
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