The Fish 8954 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Poor Lawro, it's kind of like the gambler's fallacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Only morons believe them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share Posted October 14, 2017 My lineup would be Elliot, Yedlin, Lascelles, Clark, Manquillo, Ritchie, Shelvey, Merino, Atsu, Perez, Gayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 4 hours ago, LooneyToony said: My lineup would be Elliot, Yedlin, Lascelles, Clark, Manquillo, Ritchie, Shelvey, Merino, Atsu, Perez, Gayle Jesus wept Looney Toony, you on this Benitez kick with underwhelming Perez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share Posted October 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Noelie said: Jesus wept Looney Toony, you on this Benitez kick with underwhelming Perez. Well, who do we put there? Diame is the only other choice with this formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 30 minutes ago, LooneyToony said: Well, who do we put there? Diame is the only other choice with this formation. Could maybe put Merino there with Hayden in mid-field. And actually I would prefer Diame to Perez if only for his energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Noelie said: Could maybe put Merino there with Hayden in mid-field. And actually I would prefer Diame to Perez if only for his energy. Him who the captain tried to spark out for being a lazy shit? Edited October 14, 2017 by TheGingerQuiff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 2068 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 28 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Him who the captain tried to spark out for being a lazy shit? I agree, but it could be the making of him....or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I'm as critical of Ayoze as anyone at times but he isn't half-arsed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14529 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 All this criticism of one of Rafas first names on the team sheet....from the same people who were wetting theimselves when the transfer window closed...will you fuckers show some fuckin faith in the manager for a fuckin minute? You saw the ransfer window, THATS why Perez plays every week. End of fuckin story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12450 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I’d always prefer Perez over Diame, it’s now pretty clear Diame doesn’t just look like he’s being lazy. As PL says Rafa is playing Perez for a reason, obviously mostly because the transfer window was a mess but also likely because Perez harries the opposition which is something Diame would never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 2068 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 36 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: All this criticism of one of Rafas first names on the team sheet....from the same people who were wetting theimselves when the transfer window closed...will you fuckers show some fuckin faith in the manager for a fuckin minute? You saw the ransfer window, THATS why Perez plays every week. End of fuckin story. I here what you say, i just disagree Perez is simply not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graing 15 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 hours ago, TheGingerQuiff said: I'm as critical of Ayoze as anyone at times but he isn't half-arsed Yes absolutely. Diame is starting to remind me of how lazy Sissoko was here. Perez is anything but lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 hours ago, PaddockLad said: All this criticism of one of Rafas first names on the team sheet....from the same people who were wetting theimselves when the transfer window closed...will you fuckers show some fuckin faith in the manager for a fuckin minute? You saw the ransfer window, THATS why Perez plays every week. End of fuckin story. My dear PaddockLad, if you persist in the repeated use of fuckin, I insist you add the missing g or put the appropriate ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2763 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14529 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Noelie said: My dear PaddockLad, if you persist in the repeated use of fuckin, I insist you add the missing g or put the appropriate ' Fuckin hell its the sweary punctuation police (Donald Trump division) drink may have been taken when I posted that last night, but the point remains. The world and his wife can see what a better player in there could achieve, but that's not down to Perez,Diame or Rafa its down to Ashley. Rafa is dealing with the pack he's got, and he's dealing with it pretty well. There's bigger challenges to come, but it's been ok so I don't get the singling out of players due to lack of funds to bring their replacements in. Anyway, am off to Southampton later quietly confident, most likely a draw but we can shade this. As I pointed out pre season, outside the top 6 this division should hold no real fears for us. Edited October 15, 2017 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19750 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 We were crying out for a number 10 and didn't get one in the transfer window. That's true and isn't Rafa's fault. Perez has been the weak link this season. We've carried him at times and it's a crucial position. If I were Rafa I'd be tempted to see if merino or Ritchie could do a job in there, maybe even Murphy. I assume he's keeping his place for his off the ball work because he's done fuck all with it at his feet. Zero goals and no assists that I can remember. Diame is gash. If he is going to start, it should be from deeper but he must be at least fourth choice in that position so I don't expect him to get much game time this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12737 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 If you think Perez has been shite this season, you didn't watch him this time last year where he was absolutely fucking shite at home to the likes of Rotherham and Brentford. Far as I'm concerned, he's grafting, knitting things together better than he has been in ages and is learning to be a little shithouse to win free kicks in a position that probably isn't his. The idea that Ritchie should play there, when he's been setting up all of our goals from wide areas is a bit arse backward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 3652 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Aye I think Perez has done well, he is grafting his tits off every game and not hiding like he used to. Always think it’s mad how people see different things from the same game like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, strawb said: Aye I think Perez has done well, he is grafting his tits off every game and not hiding like he used to. Always think it’s mad how people see different things from the same game like. I think people just want to see more end product, even more so because we haven't got a prolific striker so could do with #10 chipping in more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14529 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 42 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: If you think Perez has been shite this season, you didn't watch him this time last year where he was absolutely fucking shite at home to the likes of Rotherham and Brentford. Far as I'm concerned, he's grafting, knitting things together better than he has been in ages and is learning to be a little shithouse to win free kicks in a position that probably isn't his. The idea that Ritchie should play there, when he's been setting up all of our goals from wide areas is a bit arse backward. Ritchie in the middle is Glooms pet theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19750 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 He's probably our most creative player. I don't see the case for not giving him a go behind the striker when we have options out wide in Murphy and Aarons and nee options at number 10 seemingly capable of doing anything other than grafting. Giv him a go there, if it doesn't work move him back out wide. No brainer or you could throw merino or shelvey in there, though I think shelvey is probably least suited of the lot to the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 3652 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 hours ago, TheGingerQuiff said: I think people just want to see more end product, even more so because we haven't got a prolific striker so could do with #10 chipping in more Yeah I get that but realistically he isn’t a world beater. He is clearly our best option in that position though. Moving peoples positions is just square pegs and round holes imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerosum 234 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I think this is a good chance to beat these. We haven't done well in the past down there, but this team has a lot more grit than teams in our recent history.. I'd take a draw, but would love to be on 13 points at this stage of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I've stuck a tenner on us at almost 4/1. Great price 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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