Christmas Tree 3997 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Apparently there’s quite a few people who are advising behind the scenes and have a wealth of experience. A few are from Raffas circle, Phil Fodens agent, Frank McCartlan (sp). Given it’s happened when it has, it’s just going to take a little longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Nailed on that they had Rafa lined up the last time the takeover looked close. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Steve Wraiths phone is always on, set to loud, anytime they fancy giving the man some people say was a small cog in the takeover a call. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 9941 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 A minutes silence for the possibility of Steve ever getting that call. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12736 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Noticed he wasn't in the Platinum section on Sunday. He must have been busy when Staveley rang him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16498 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I feel sick at this tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26618 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, Howay said: Steve Wraiths phone is always on, set to loud, anytime they fancy giving the man some people say was a small cog in the takeover a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2763 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, The Fish said: That's why I think Al-Ramayan's attendance will accelerate things. and Carla Dibello. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8950 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Rayvin said: I just wish they had been ready for this takeover to happen when it did. They so clearly weren't. Said it before but the Saudis clearly weren't bothering their arse to forewarn Staveley et al about the u-turn on piracy, so they were all caught on the hop. Yes, personally, I would have had Rangnick on speed dial with a "Look, if this happens, how quickly can you get out of Moscow?" But the signs were that no resolution would be coming before December at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8950 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: I mean, PIF should have been doing due diligence and drawing up plans way, way, way before they bought the club. No one buys anything and then just walks in with a blank sheet of paper and starts from zero. But that does sort of look like what they're doing to a degree, and the only reason I can imagine such a savvy group of investors would be in that position is if things moved quicker than planned. They could have had the consultants in place well beforehand as well. You're right, there's parts of this that they couldn't have gotten going until things were moving, but they don't appear to have a clear view on who should manage the club, who should be DoF, etc. Maybe they're just being very tight lipped about it (although as you say, with football being leaky as fuck you'd think we'd have heard something). All the parts they couldn't get moving they should have been totally poised to jump on immediately. I reckon they didn't see the point in drawing up a manager shortlist until the deal was back on - and that's why we're now running around with names like Steven Gerrard and Eddie Howe. All I'm saying here really, is that I don't think it is reasonable for us to assume that they're an absolute masterclass in taking over and running a football club. I think they're going to have to learn - and if we keep talking as if they are indeed a masterclass, we're going to be in for some rude shocks when the first very obvious mistake goes down. It's arguably already happened. Read somewhere that they were allowed to look at the pertinent financial information, but little else. It's hard to plan when you can't do worthwhile assessments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, The Fish said: Read somewhere that they were allowed to look at the pertinent financial information, but little else. It's hard to plan when you can't do worthwhile assessments. Genuinely? That would explain absolutely everything we're seeing then but I still can't quite believe someone would spend £300m without that level of insight. Unless £300m is absolute peanuts which of course it is to PIF, but is it to Staveley's backers, even at just £30m? Football has just gone up another level in the ludicrous stakes for me though, if that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Genuinely? That would explain absolutely everything we're seeing then but I still can't quite believe someone would spend £300m without that level of insight. Unless £300m is absolute peanuts which of course it is to PIF, but is it to Staveley's backers, even at just £30m? Football has just gone up another level in the ludicrous stakes for me though, if that's true. Staveley said it herself. They've had access to the data room for financial matters and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Right well, I missed that detail. Completely understand everything that's gone on since then. If anything is the 'final parting gift' from Ashley, it's that. Fucking bellend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16498 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Decent read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34182 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I don't know what you would expect them to be able to see beyond the data room though? That's how corporate acquisitions work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13811 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Splashing the cash 😎 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 MF seething that he missed out on the £100m contract for that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26189 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It really says something though when getting the windows cleaned is seen as an act of indulgence. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16498 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It just shows you how far Ashley dropped the club if a local newspaper is fucking telling people the windows are being cleaned. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13811 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: It really says something though when getting the windows cleaned is seen as an act of indulgence. Sportswashing mate 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4949 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I don't know what you would expect them to be able to see beyond the data room though? That's how corporate acquisitions work. It's a fair point, although the takeovers I've been involved in have actually involved a bit more immersion prior to the buy than just metrics and money. Those are, admittedly, with smaller businesses than this though, so maybe that's why my perception on this is different. Either way I'm backing down on this now with that particular revelation noted, though with the caveat that I still don't necessarily think we should assume too much of them from the get go. Other than, y'know, spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38571 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, ewerk said: MF seething that he missed out on the £100m contract for that. Been there, done that. This one is when we installed the Olympic banners 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13811 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I would have been absolutely shitting myself at that height 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38571 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tom said: I would have been absolutely shitting myself at that height Better view of the ground from next door tbh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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