trooper 420 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, ewerk said: What gives you that idea? Just all i've heard all day is the deals still on the table obviously thats no good to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 1,632 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 How do we know PCP are an investment fund or looking to make money Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 770 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: How do we know PCP are an investment fund or looking to make money What Bloomberg says; Quote https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=50176405 PCP Capital Partners LLP provides investment banking and financial advisory services. The firm provides mergers and acquisitions, debt and equity private placements, restructuring, and investment advisory services. PCP Capital Partners LLP was founded in 2005 and is based in London, United Kingdom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 1,632 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Fish said: What Bloomberg says; Provides acquisitions... doesn't sound like we can be sure of who they are or discount the possibility that they're acquiring for someone stupid rich. Edited January 17, 2018 by TheGingerQuiff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tdansmith 1,026 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 hours ago, trooper said: Ashley's clearly not interested in the deal still on the table. Maybe he hasn't actually read the offer, this would make sense if it was the same table the curry was on. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 770 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Provides acquisitions... doesn't sound like we can be sure of who they are or discount the possibility that they're acquiring for someone stupid rich. Can't discount it, no. But surely if the difference was £50m (as reported) a stupidly rich buyer would have been more likely to acquiesce to Ashley's demands, as it'd be a drop in the ocean for them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 1,632 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Fish said: Can't discount it, no. But surely if the difference was £50m (as reported) a stupidly rich buyer would have been more likely to acquiesce to Ashley's demands, as it'd be a drop in the ocean for them? Don't agree with that. Look at City's stance on Sanchez for example. Why would they submit to Ashley when they know they hold all the cards? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 770 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Really bad comparison that. Man City have a legion of stars, aren't in any rush and know the player has forced a move. Newcastle United can't force Ashley to sell it, Ashley is content enough to hold onto the club until his ridiculous valuation is met (it won't be) so he's in no rush either. I don't think they do hold all the cards really. Ashley does, unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 1,632 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, The Fish said: Really bad comparison that. Man City have a legion of stars, aren't in any rush and know the player has forced a move. Newcastle United can't force Ashley to sell it, Ashley is content enough to hold onto the club until his ridiculous valuation is met (it won't be) so he's in no rush either. I don't think they do hold all the cards really. Ashley does, unfortunately. It's not a bad comparison. They want the player but are going to miss out because they don't want their pants taking down even though the money is a drop in the ocean. If whoever is bidding for us knows that by making Ashley sweat for a couple of month on relegation and the prospect of having to spend they can save 50m then yes theyll do it no matter how rich they are Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 2,934 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 why overpay now and risk relegation when you can buy in the summer and save the cashola to invest in the team? ashley is the one who is sweating, as another relegation is on him. i wouldn't be surprised if he sanctions a few panic buys/loans in the next few days. stavely is sitting back, waiting to see if we stop up, before returning with an offer closer what that ashley wants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,219 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/17/reuben-family-newcastle-takeover-amanda-staveley?CMP=share_btn_tw Looks like it was a consortium bid. Have they ever worked in reality? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jintsay 2 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 It's alright lads. Dennis Wise has chipped in with some reassuring news that Mike Ashley is reluctant to sell because he only wants to sell to a buyer that is going to take the club forward and not sell to a buyer that is only coming in to make a quick buck from the next TV deal money. http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/newcastle-united/11211758/ashley-wont-sell-to-just-anyone That's a relief. We wouldn't want anyone like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 1,632 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 How many times does he say "that football club"? Hates even saying our name. He should stick to bullying Iain Lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Les 5 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jintsay said: It's alright lads. Dennis Wise has chipped in with some reassuring news that Mike Ashley is reluctant to sell because he only wants to sell to a buyer that is going to take the club forward and not sell to a buyer that is only coming in to make a quick buck from the next TV deal money. http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/newcastle-united/11211758/ashley-wont-sell-to-just-anyone That's a relief. We wouldn't want anyone like that. What a snivelling little cunt he is! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 2,934 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, ewerk said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/17/reuben-family-newcastle-takeover-amanda-staveley?CMP=share_btn_tw Looks like it was a consortium bid. Have they ever worked in reality? That Reuben family have the sort of wealth you need to transform a football club today. How much of the deal they’d be financing,or whether they’d return with more backing if pcp make another bid, I don’t know. Edited January 18, 2018 by Dr Gloom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,219 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 I know they're very wealthy but if they're only part of the consortium then they're not going to fund it all themselves. You might get everyone agreeing to put in £100m total for transfers to begin but if someone decides a year or two down the line not to do that then you run into problems. But I suppose it's no worse than we are now with an owner not willing to put a penny into playing staff in his entire tenure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trooper 420 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 52 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: That Reuben family have the sort of wealth you need to transform a football club today. How much of the deal they’d be financing,or whether they’d return with more backing of pcp make another bid, I don’t know. Well thats that then fanks Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,219 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Also, Parky would not be happy with 'that type' of owner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trooper 420 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: Also, Parky would not be happy with 'that type' of owner. As you say no worse than we have now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,219 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, trooper said: As you say no worse than we have now Parky would strongly disagree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trooper 420 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 People putting money into the club has to be better than the penny pinching asset stripper we have now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Carr's Gloves 509 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 I'd be happy if they made everyone pay for advertising and used that to bolster the transfer funds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 2,934 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, ewerk said: Also, Parky would not be happy with 'that type' of owner. I’m all for it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 2,934 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ewerk said: I know they're very wealthy but if they're only part of the consortium then they're not going to fund it all themselves. You might get everyone agreeing to put in £100m total for transfers to begin but if someone decides a year or two down the line not to do that then you run into problems. But I suppose it's no worse than we are now with an owner not willing to put a penny into playing staff in his entire tenure. When you’re starting from this base, anything is better. ...except perhaps the Venkys, who ruined Blackburn, or the Malaysian nutter who changed Cardiff’s strip to red. Knowing our luck we’d get one of those. Edited January 18, 2018 by Dr Gloom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NJS 772 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) I don't think anyone comes out of this with any credit. Journalists have reported "facts" which have been bullshit from both sides even before you get to the fat cunt's actions and the now apparent doubts about PCP. Were fucked basically. Edited January 18, 2018 by NJS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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