Shearergol 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 For fuck's sake, I can't believe this is still going! Fact is, while flying may be statistically safer, if you were going to crash a plane and a car and you had to choose which one you had to be in, give me the car any day of the week.... 86253[/snapback] Technically I just said that, you closet Chelsea fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6289 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 As has been intimated elsewhere, it's the nature of the potential risk that makes people (myself included) ignore the bare statistics. When you ask someone how they'd like to die, they rarely reply "ooh, I tell you what, I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... 86241[/snapback] There was a plane a few years ago in America that lost a section of it's tail and flew upside down for 15 minutes before eventually crashing and killing all on board. To compound matters, I have heard when the body is stressed like this time goes into slow motion "survival mode" and it would have felt like hours to the victims. Horrendous. 86247[/snapback] Renton, I think you're referring to the plane which crashed over Queens a couple of months after 9/11, which lost its rudder, inverted, stalled and crashed. If you are, then I don't know where you dreamed this 15 minutes thing up, there was a program about it on the Discovery channel the other night and the plane was down within 90 seconds of losing the rudder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 For fuck's sake, I can't believe this is still going! Fact is, while flying may be statistically safer, if you were going to crash a plane and a car and you had to choose which one you had to be in, give me the car any day of the week.... 86253[/snapback] Car crash isn't gonna get you on the news though, is it? 86256[/snapback] I'd much rather boast about being killed in a plane crash: FACT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6289 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 For fuck's sake, I can't believe this is still going! Fact is, while flying may be statistically safer, if you were going to crash a plane and a car and you had to choose which one you had to be in, give me the car any day of the week.... 86253[/snapback] Car crash isn't gonna get you on the news though, is it? 86256[/snapback] Who gives a shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 As has been intimated elsewhere, it's the nature of the potential risk that makes people (myself included) ignore the bare statistics. When you ask someone how they'd like to die, they rarely reply "ooh, I tell you what, I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... 86241[/snapback] There was a plane a few years ago in America that lost a section of it's tail and flew upside down for 15 minutes before eventually crashing and killing all on board. To compound matters, I have heard when the body is stressed like this time goes into slow motion "survival mode" and it would have felt like hours to the victims. Horrendous. 86247[/snapback] Renton, I think you're referring to the plane which crashed over Queens a couple of months after 9/11, which lost its rudder, inverted, stalled and crashed. If you are, then I don't know where you dreamed this 15 minutes thing up, there was a program about it on the Discovery channel the other night and the plane was down within 90 seconds of losing the rudder.... 86258[/snapback] I'm referring to a completely different plane crash a decade before actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6289 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 As has been intimated elsewhere, it's the nature of the potential risk that makes people (myself included) ignore the bare statistics. When you ask someone how they'd like to die, they rarely reply "ooh, I tell you what, I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... 86241[/snapback] There was a plane a few years ago in America that lost a section of it's tail and flew upside down for 15 minutes before eventually crashing and killing all on board. To compound matters, I have heard when the body is stressed like this time goes into slow motion "survival mode" and it would have felt like hours to the victims. Horrendous. 86247[/snapback] Renton, I think you're referring to the plane which crashed over Queens a couple of months after 9/11, which lost its rudder, inverted, stalled and crashed. If you are, then I don't know where you dreamed this 15 minutes thing up, there was a program about it on the Discovery channel the other night and the plane was down within 90 seconds of losing the rudder.... 86258[/snapback] I'm referring to a completely different plane crash a decade before actually. 86261[/snapback] Then it was more than a few years ago.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 For fuck's sake, I can't believe this is still going! Fact is, while flying may be statistically safer, if you were going to crash a plane and a car and you had to choose which one you had to be in, give me the car any day of the week.... 86253[/snapback] Car crash isn't gonna get you on the news though, is it? 86256[/snapback] It would if you died horribly in the mangled wreckage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 (edited) ..........it on the Discovery channel the other night86258[/snapback] And you wonder where the reputation comes from? Edited January 30, 2006 by Shearergol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6289 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 For fuck's sake, I can't believe this is still going! Fact is, while flying may be statistically safer, if you were going to crash a plane and a car and you had to choose which one you had to be in, give me the car any day of the week.... 86253[/snapback] Technically I just said that, you closet Chelsea fan 86257[/snapback] As long as it's not statistically, then all's OK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. 86266[/snapback] And you know this how? Previous life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. 86266[/snapback] How the Dickens do you know?! I know you're the bloody Oracle on here, but you'll be telling us you were in a plane crash once and it didn't hurt one bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Right, just so people don't have to read it.. Yes, I agree that statistically you're more likely to be involved in a car crash than a plane crash.... however, if I had to choose whether to crash in a car, or crash in a plane, I'd choose the car. Now, does anyone else want to point out to me that statistically it's safer to fly, because I'm not sure enough people have said it yet. 86242[/snapback] I understood the first time. My point was you are much more likely to DIE in a car crash, not just be involved in one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3183 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. 86266[/snapback] And you know this how? Previous life? 86269[/snapback] Or get hijacked and flown into a building. Or blown out of the sky.can you imagine the feeling of falling to earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. 86266[/snapback] And you know this how? Previous life? 86269[/snapback] Buy "Flight" magazine (its weekly) - every 6 months they publish a full list of stats and details of all accidents for every plane that is commercial - easy really or http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. 86266[/snapback] And you know this how? Previous life? 86269[/snapback] Buy "Flight" magazine (its weekly) - every 6 months they publish a full list of stats and details of all accidents for every plane that is commercial - easy really or http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm 86277[/snapback] Do they have interviews with the dead people to see if it hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. 86266[/snapback] How the Dickens do you know?! I know you're the bloody Oracle on here, but you'll be telling us you were in a plane crash once and it didn't hurt one bit! 86271[/snapback] never been in one thank God................ once in one that was hit by lightening - very noisy, very bright but the plane stayed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. 86266[/snapback] And you know this how? Previous life? 86269[/snapback] Buy "Flight" magazine (its weekly) - every 6 months they publish a full list of stats and details of all accidents for every plane that is commercial - easy really or http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm 86277[/snapback] Do they have interviews with the dead people to see if it hurt? 86278[/snapback] you really don't want the detail they publish after they've taken a close look at the bodies........... or bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 i've never been scared of flying, however reading this thread and the links posted is changing that thanks people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 We are only here to serve and to help............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6289 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. 86266[/snapback] righto.... And like your point about them gliding, I wouldn't want to find out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6289 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. 86266[/snapback] And you know this how? Previous life? 86269[/snapback] Buy "Flight" magazine (its weekly) - every 6 months they publish a full list of stats and details of all accidents for every plane that is commercial - easy really or http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm 86277[/snapback] OK, here's one for you... TWA plane that crashed off Long Island during the '96 Olympics. Brought down simply because the plane had been left on the apron too long with the air conditioning system left on. The aircon system heated the fuel in the centre tank to flash point and a short caused by the shoddy insulation on the wiring loom caused a spark and the fuel exploded. It resulted in a fracture which caused the nose to detatch and the plane literally fly for another half mile without a front section before it stalled and crashed...... You telling me those people felt nowt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17628 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 "I wouldn't mind a long, drawn-out awareness of my impending doom whilst trapped in a metal tube with a couple of hundred people screaming"... almost all planes crash on landing, on takeoff or go straight into a mountain - you don't feel a thing.............................. 86266[/snapback] And you know this how? Previous life? 86269[/snapback] Buy "Flight" magazine (its weekly) - every 6 months they publish a full list of stats and details of all accidents for every plane that is commercial - easy really or http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm 86277[/snapback] OK, here's one for you... TWA plane that crashed off Long Island during the '96 Olympics. Brought down simply because the plane had been left on the apron too long with the air conditioning system left on. The aircon system heated the fuel in the centre tank to flash point and a short caused by the shoddy insulation on the wiring loom caused a spark and the fuel exploded. It resulted in a fracture which caused the nose to detatch and the plane literally fly for another half mile without a front section before it stalled and crashed...... You telling me those people felt nowt! 86286[/snapback] I heve heard it verified that when a plane explodes in mid air, many of the passengers will be alive and conscious as they fall to Earth, knowing they are going to die. Then there's burning to death during a crashed landing, etc. In actual fact, they take into account the amount of suffering the person is likely to have felt when compensation claims to relatives are made. In the afore-mentioned 15 minutes upside down horror, the relatives of the dead were paid millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8950 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Car crash isn't gonna get you on the news though, is it? 86256[/snapback] ... unless you're married to a jug-eared Prince of course. to be absolutely honest I have never given my safety a second thought. I find that it's better to be ignorant to the myriad of problems that could happen and just settle back, listen to music/read a book/watch the world fly by. what the point in worrying what-if? you, as a passenger, can't do anything anyway so sit back and enjoy yourself. At least if you're plummeting to your death you can spen whatever time you've got cursing the string of events that lead you to this end, or ticking off things you're proud of.... that's gotta be soothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Right, just so people don't have to read it.. Yes, I agree that statistically you're more likely to be involved in a car crash than a plane crash.... however, if I had to choose whether to crash in a car, or crash in a plane, I'd choose the car. Now, does anyone else want to point out to me that statistically it's safer to fly, because I'm not sure enough people have said it yet. 86242[/snapback] I understood the first time. My point was you are much more likely to DIE in a car crash, not just be involved in one. 86272[/snapback] Riiiight. I've been in 3 car crashes, survived all three. Pretty sure there's almost 0% chance of surviving a plane crash. Are you seriously telling me that someone is more likely to die in their first car crash than in their first plane crash?? Sorry, but bollocks. Would love to see your facts on the issue though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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