Meenzer 13932 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Probably the capital of Afghanistan or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8946 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 statistically more likely to lose your life in this thread than on a plane tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Kabul? Anyway, that reminds me, Francesco Benussi who plays in goal for Lecce wears number 99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8946 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) didn't he win the European cup after being shot nine times? Edited February 8, 2006 by Geordie Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 13932 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Apparently he's going to be our next manager too. Nailed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8946 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 didn't he leave the board because he was getting bullied, but posted his departure to ensure everybody retained massive respect for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 as the protests continue, issues surrounding north east football play their part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 Anyway, here's my tuppence worth. People who are easily offended by such remarks are people who have brittle faith. If you love your wife dearly and think the world of her, what would you care if someone disagree's or even makes fun of her looks? She is beautiful to you and that should be enough. Anybody who reacts with violent or vengeful thoughts, words or deeds to a stupid cartoon has deep personal problems. This isn't an Islamic issue imo, the people involved have serious character flaws and probably very, very low self esteem coupled with a feeling of isolation. These aren't bad muslims, just bad people. They have lost or never had a sense of clarity or mature discrimination with which to view the world. I am a religious person and believe the Supreme One is all knowing and all loving. Are we to be judged on our dress? The timing of our rituals? Our facial hair? Or are we to be judged on what is in our hearts? It is easier to follow an outward course of action rather improve and evolve oneself through reflection, understanding and forgiveness. It is also easier to impose your will on others than to be lead by example. Truly these people have made God in their own image, vengeful, wrathful and intolerant. I believe Islam is none of these things, i'm sure 'The East' was viewed as the refuge for liberal thinkers a few centuries ago. The media love this 'Type of Muslim' though, they give very little coverage to what i believe to be a very great majority of decent people who happen to be muslim and so we are bombarded by this type of sensationalism. Don't let these ridiculous images create a generalisation of a great many people. 90175[/snapback] I think this 'feeling of isolation' from mainstream British society is possibly one of the things that has encouraged Islmaic extremism to grow in this country. 90191[/snapback] I can see this from both sides tbh. Anyone would feel a bit isolated if few people spoke, dressed, looked like, prayed like oneself. However i also think it's a bit rich to demand the populace of the host country to display human qualities over and above that which you are capable of yourself and then have the hump about it when they don't! It is incumbent on the arrivee to do their best to fit in imo. What really f**ks me off is when you read that some of the ringleaders are on benefits. How someone can beg from another man's table without the slightest humility and call his wife a slut and his mother a whore and then tell him that your way is the true way is unbelievable. Those who behave in such a way have no honour, they are not men. Tiny minority though. 90199[/snapback] All of your posts on this are very good mate, well said. 90772[/snapback] Cheers 90780[/snapback] don't get big headed man I meant chocchip ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 LAGOS, Nigeria - Christian mobs rampaged through a southern Nigerian city Tuesday, burning mosques and killing several people in an outbreak of anti-Muslim violence that followed deadly protests against caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad over the weekend. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/nigeria_sectarian_violence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsoldier 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 That's probably in retaliation for the fifteen people, including three children, that were killed by muslims in nigeria the day before. One of the men had a tire put around him was doused in petrol and set alight. AP newswire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 That's probably in retaliation for the fifteen people, including three children, that were killed by muslims in nigeria the day before. One of the men had a tire put around him was doused in petrol and set alight. AP newswire. 98673[/snapback] sounds like a night out in Pennywell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 That's probably in retaliation for the fifteen people, including three children, that were killed by muslims in nigeria the day before. One of the men had a tire put around him was doused in petrol and set alight. AP newswire. 98673[/snapback] Freedom of expression tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Fun spot Nigeria ............. as well as bits of Indonesia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 That's probably in retaliation for the fifteen people, including three children, that were killed by muslims in nigeria the day before. One of the men had a tire put around him was doused in petrol and set alight. AP newswire. 98673[/snapback] That makes it ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 See one lot have bombed shrine belonging to the other lot in Eye Rak Nowt like stirring it up is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 See one lot have bombed shrine belonging to the other lot in Eye Rak Nowt like stirring it up is there? 99171[/snapback] Wouldn't have happened on Saddam's watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Too damn true!!! The smack of Firm Govt................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17575 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 See one lot have bombed shrine belonging to the other lot in Eye Rak Nowt like stirring it up is there? 99171[/snapback] Wouldn't have happened on Saddam's watch. 99176[/snapback] That is actually true and is why there will never be a functional deomcracy in Iraq. It needs a dictatorship or will disintegrate, probably the latter will happen and we should stop pretending otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 That is actually true and is why there will never be a functional deomcracy in Iraq. It needs a dictatorship or will disintegrate, probably the latter will happen and we should stop pretending otherwise. 99194[/snapback] I don't agree with that, all political systems develop in the direction of democracy; although it could be a long way off in this case, certainly a lot further away than it was prior to their 'liberation'. I might just be taking you too literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17575 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 That is actually true and is why there will never be a functional deomcracy in Iraq. It needs a dictatorship or will disintegrate, probably the latter will happen and we should stop pretending otherwise. 99194[/snapback] I don't agree with that, all political systems develop in the direction of democracy; although it could be a long way off in this case, certainly a lot further away than it was prior to their 'liberation'. I might just be taking you too literally. 99204[/snapback] Yes, but it strikes me that Iraq has artificial boundaries created by the west, and encompasses three ethnic and religious groups who are unlikely to ever get on with each other, especially given recent history. That's my take on the situation anyway, but I admit I am no expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 That is actually true and is why there will never be a functional deomcracy in Iraq. It needs a dictatorship or will disintegrate, probably the latter will happen and we should stop pretending otherwise. 99194[/snapback] I don't agree with that, all political systems develop in the direction of democracy; although it could be a long way off in this case, certainly a lot further away than it was prior to their 'liberation'. I might just be taking you too literally. 99204[/snapback] Yes, but it strikes me that Iraq has artificial boundaries created by the west, and encompasses three ethnic and religious groups who are unlikely to ever get on with each other, especially given recent history. That's my take on the situation anyway, but I admit I am no expert. 99212[/snapback] A bit like Yugoslavia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17575 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 At it again. From the Beeb. Islamists have warned the creators of TV show South Park they could face violent retribution for depicting the Prophet Muhammad in a bear suit. A posting on the website of the US-based group, Revolution Muslim, told Matt Stone and Trey Parker they would "probably wind up like Theo Van Gogh". The Dutch film-maker was shot and stabbed to death in 2004 by an Islamist angered by his film about Muslim women. A subsequent episode of the cartoon bleeped out references to Muhammad. Drug-snorting Buddha The posting gave details about a home Stone and Parker reportedly co-own. It also listed the addresses of their production office in California and the New York office of South Park's broadcaster, Comedy Central. "We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo Van Gogh for airing this show," warned the posting, written in the name of Abu Talhah Al-Amrikee. "This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them," it added. Mr al-Amrikee later told the Associated Press the posting was not an incitement to violence. It had been published to raise awareness of the issue and to see that it did not happen again, he added. This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them Abu Talhah Al-Amrikee A Comedy Central spokesman said the network had no comment. In the 200th episode of South Park, broadcast in the US and UK last week, Muhammad appeared several times inside a bear suit. Figures from other religions were also depicted, including a drug-snorting Buddha. Wednesday's 201st episode saw any spoken references to Muhammad bleeped out, while a prominent banner stating "censored" was used in the programme. Speaking in an interview with the Boing Boing website before the 200th show aired, the South Park team defended the scenes. "We'd be so hypocritical against our own message, our own thoughts, if we said, 'okay, well let's not make fun of them because they won't hurt us,'" said Parker. "It matters to me when we talk about Muhammad that I can say we did this... and I can stand behind that," Stone added. "I don't think it's going to change the world, but this is how it's got to be for our show." In 2006, Comedy Central banned Stone and Parker from showing an image of Muhammad in an episode that was intended to be part of a comment on the controversy caused by the publication of caricatures of the prophet by a Danish newspaper. An earlier episode, Super-Best Friends (2001), contained an image of Muhammad but passed without comment. "It was before the Danish cartoon controversy, so it somehow is fine," Stone told Boing Boing. "Then, after that, now that's the new normal. We lost. Something that was okay is now not okay." Muslims consider any physical representation of their prophet to be blasphemous. The caricatures published in Denmark sparked mass protests worldwide. It was a funny episode as well, and as this shows (if this is true) was unfortunately spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) South Park Controversy and Fallacies of Muslim Extremists The CNN report on the veiled threat made by an obscure, fringe American Muslim website against the creators of the South Park cartoon shows an extremist saying something completely untrue. “Yunus Muhammad” says in the interview that the Qur’an instructs Muslims to ‘terrorize the disbelievers.’ It does no such thing. The Qur’an instructs Muslims to live at peace with non-Muslims who are at peace with them. The verse to which this individual referred was in the chapter of the Spoils (al-Anfal), 8:60: Wa a`iddu lahum ma istata`tum min quwwatin wamin ribati ‘lkhayli turhibuna bihi `aduwwa Allahi wa`aduwwakum Which means, “Prepare against them all the power, and all the war horses that you can, whereby to strike fear into the enemies of God and your enemies.” The context of this verse is the Battle of Badr on March 17, 624 of the Common Era. In the 610s, the pagan Meccans had persecuted the new religion of Islam and ultimately chased Muhammad and the Muslims out of Mecca for preaching the one God. They took refuge in the nearby city of Yathrib, which became known as Medina (i.e. the City [of the Prophet]). The wealthy Meccan polytheists hoped to wipe Islam and the Muslims out, and fought skirmishes with them. The early Muslims riposted by raiding Meccan trading caravans, in hopes of weakening their foe economically. That March in 624, the Meccans sent out their best fighters to protect a caravan. A Muslim force more or less stumbled onto this expedition. Badr, named after a well south of Medina, was the first major battle between the two sides, and the Muslims won it, thus saving themselves from genocide. So what the Qur’an is saying in 8:60 is that the Muslims should keep a stable of fighting steeds at the ready and let the Meccans know about it, to strike fear into the hearts of an enemy trying to wipe out them and their religion. The verse does not command any act of ‘terrorism.’ It commands that Muslims attempt to forestall irrational violence against a Muslim state through deterrence. It is defensive in intent. The verse does not say anything about mere ‘disbelievers’ or non-Muslims. It is warning of the designs of ‘enemies of God,’ i.e. militant and violent anti-Muslims. Moreover, there is no implication that Muslims should act as individuals or vigilantes. Medina was a city-state that the Prophet Muhammad ruled, and he gave the orders. Muslims could not just run off and attack whomever they pleased whenever they pleased. A duly constituted Muslim state was in charge of defense of the community. So unless Yunus Muhammad can find a group of armed individuals who aim at violently attacking Muslims en masse and trying to wipe out them and their religion, he should stuff a sock in it and go home. In fact, trying to import terrorism into the Qur’an is an infinitely greater blasphemy than that of any Western cartoonist, and one would hope Muslim groups would get more upset about Yunus Muhammad and ‘Revolution Muslim’ than about an irreverent American tv program. Unfortunately, along with people with genuinely hurt feelings, there will be some cynical political forces that manipulate Muslim fundamentalists and will try to advance their agendas by taking advantage of this South Park controversy (the show depicted the Prophet Muhammad in a bear suit to avoid showing him– which is about as close as South Park gets to deference to religious feelings). The USG Open Source Center translated the following item from Bahasa Indonesian about the reaction of the Forum Ummat Islam or the Community Forum of Islam, a coalition of fundamentalists formed in 2005 to repress the Ahmadiya movement. (The Ahmadiya is a form of modernist millenarianism that posits a minor prophet (nabi) after Muhammad; most Muslims believe that there is no prophet after Muhammad). The fundamentalist FUI, which includes cults like Hizb ut-Tahrir, the caliphate nuts, is relatively small in Indonesia, where secular parties have done far, far better in recent elections. ‘Indonesia: FUI Seeks Clarification From US Mission on Film ‘Desecrating’ Prophet Report by Dadan Muhammad: “US Embassy Must Give Clarification on Film Desecrating Prophet” okezone.com Wednesday, April 21, 2010 Document Type: OSC Translated Text … Jakarta — Lodging protest against an animation movie showing Prophet Muhammad in a bear suit, the Islamic Followers Forum (FUI [Forum Ummat Islam]) sought a clarification from the US Embassy in Jakarta. “The US Embassy in Indonesia must give a clarification that its government will take strict action against the creator of this animation movie and apologize to all Muslims in the world,” FUI Secretary General Muhammad al-Khaththath told Okezone.com. According to him, any attempt to portray Prophet Muhammad, including showing him in a bear suit in the animation, is prohibited in Islam. He terms this “desecration against the nobility of Prophet Muhammad.” Followers of Islam all over the world must be hurt by this. “The followers Islamic must protest and the creator has to be punished because it is a humiliation,” he stressed. The FUI secretary general said that this humiliation might give rise to hostility. “The United States, which glorifies democracy and human rights, has actually been acting racist and violating the dignity of other groups. The followers of Muhammad will not allow this to continue,” he said. When asked about a possible protest in front of the US Embassy, Al-Khaththath said that he was still watching the situation. “We will see the situation,” he said. He said that the desecration of Prophet Muhammad had taken places many times earlier also. According to him, it had been caused by hatred against the Islamic teaching. “It is the Islamic teaching that has become their enemy, not Muslims. Muslims who have poor Islamic knowledge are not their enemies,” he said. According to Al-Khaththath, the other factor operating behind such happenings is a secular law, which did not give severe punishment to the citizen who commit desecration against a religion or a group. In the 200th episode of South Park broadcast last week, a program created by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, an animated prophet Muhammad was shown wearing a bear suit. It has riveted protests from many groups so far. http://www.juancole.com/2010/04/south-park...extremists.html Edited April 22, 2010 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barrack Road Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I want to say lots, but won't. All I'll say, is a generic "cunts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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