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21 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Had my first COVID test this week. I'd spent the afternoon on an interview panel with someone who tested positive 2 days later. 
 

Mine came back negative fortunately 

How is Galashiels these days? 

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3 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

Shocking! 
It’s one set rules for the elite, while the rest of us  can get to fuck. 
 

 

 

 

 

:lol:

Its worse than that. If in of our little shits, I mean dears, gets symptoms they are also fast tracked to testing. No way can they let a paper pusher like me waste my time self isolating. 

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He's specialises in allergies, not virology. And he's talking absolute shite in that thread , not to mention much of what he says is morally repugnant (let the over 60s die). His facts are simply plain wrong or have been wrongly interpreted. A do nothing response he is advocating would be disastrous. And whilst there is some valid criticism of the blatant cronyism and corruption in government  (although I don't accept the Vallance slurs,.as discussed) , there is no doubt in my mind that this pandemic is the last thing any government wants. This government's reaction  to it actually proves how serious it is. 

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It’s funny how the conspiracy nuts dismiss experts and scientists as “ all a part of it”, until one pops up that agrees with them, and then it’s 

“ listen to him, he knows what he’s talking about”. 

This isn’t a pop at you @wykikitoon, btw, irs aimed at the angry mentalists in the replies to that thread. 

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It's not clear from the thread but is this guy advocating just letting people die at home? Because if we let the disease simply run its course then the hospitals are guaranteed to be overwhelmed so there still won't be any capacity to deal with non-covid related illnesses. Surely it's obvious that this would result in a huge death toll.

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1 hour ago, ewerk said:

Right, so we listen to the guy who advocates doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop covid? We just let it run through the entire population and see who is left standing at the end of it?

 

FFS man.

 

 

What would you do?

We had nearly 15 weeks of negative mortality.  This is going to be endemic so do we just keep locking down with the draconian measures when the avg age of mortality of Covid in the UK is 80? 

 

There have been rising number of +ve tests, fair enough that is a slight worry.  But if you look at that with ICU and Hospital admissions, nah, it doesnt worry me.  What worries me is the deaths from other causes.  The taking away of common sense and looking at science all because that cunt is making billions for him and his mates.


 

 

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5 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

 

 

What would you do?

We had nearly 15 weeks of negative mortality.  This is going to be endemic so do we just keep locking down with the draconian measures when the avg age of mortality of Covid in the UK is 80? 

 

There have been rising number of +ve tests, fair enough that is a slight worry.  But if you look at that with ICU and Hospital admissions, nah, it doesnt worry me.  What worries me is the deaths from other causes.  The taking away of common sense and looking at science all because that cunt is making billions for him and his mates.


 

 

Who is making billions? Not Valance and Whitty.

What this fella is proposing would overwhelm the NHS and deaths from other causes would also increase as a result. This is simple logic, you don’t need to be a doctor to see it. We need to keep the virus under control, hospital admissions to a minimum and resume something like normal life but with certain restrictions.

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6 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

 

 

What would you do?

We had nearly 15 weeks of negative mortality.  This is going to be endemic so do we just keep locking down with the draconian measures when the avg age of mortality of Covid in the UK is 80? 

 

There have been rising number of +ve tests, fair enough that is a slight worry.  But if you look at that with ICU and Hospital admissions, nah, it doesnt worry me.  What worries me is the deaths from other causes.  The taking away of common sense and looking at science all because that cunt is making billions for him and his mates.


 

 

 

Negative mortality? People are being resurrected?

 

You're wrong. The infection rate is increasing exponentially now, very much like in Spring but this time we have winter to contend with. Mortality rates and admissions are following on track exactly as you would expect them to. 400 admissions yesterday. Do nothing and the NHS will collapse anyway, rather defeating your point. I agree that we have to keep non covid care as normal as possible though. 

 

Not sure what you mean by common sense. We need science to lead this, like most other countries in the world have done. Unfortunately we haven't done enough and we are heading for a full blown crisis again imo.

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All the shite that's been sent out without going to Tender. Vallance has shares in GSK. He will make a packet surly off a vaccine.


How do we keep the virus under control?

The PCR testing has a high % of false positives.  It's also reporting that there are coronavirus present, but not whether theyre active cells, they can be on you for weeks but dead inactive cells.  Apparently there's also a large number of coronavirus strains that just makeup for the common cold.  Yet they're making up a large number of positives.  So what do we do?
 

When I was at the LGI last week for my dad in A&E (no pun) it was fucking dead.  Nobody in there at all.  A&E staff stood around chatting.  I have a friend going through chemo at the moment she said the same for the Oncology unit.

 

I have just been to buy a suit jacket.  Wasn't allowed to goto the changing room to try it on, but I could try it on in the middle of the store.  How does that make fucking sense?

 

We have lost all sense of science and rational thought.

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5 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Negative mortality? People are being resurrected?

 

You're wrong. The infection rate is increasing exponentially now, very much like in Spring but this time we have winter to contend with. Mortality rates and admissions are following on track exactly as you would expect them to. 400 admissions yesterday. Do nothing and the NHS will collapse anyway, rather defeating your point. I agree that we have to keep non covid care as normal as possible though. 

 

Not sure what you mean by common sense. We need science to lead this, like most other countries in the world have done. Unfortunately we haven't done enough and we are heading for a full blown crisis again imo.

 

Negative in comparison over the 5 year average.

 

Exponentially?  Keep an eye on this, that should be interesting. This thing is endemic and following seasonality.  So we should see an increase in the positives.  Hopefully we wont see deaths like we saw in March and I don't think we will.

 

 

We do need science to lead this, but the cunts in No. 10 aren't listening to the scientists.

 

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Valance held a senior role at GSK and was awarded a lot of shares when he left. He sold 90% of them. GSK are a huge company with fingers in many pies. Shares will go up only if the vaccine works and Vallance will make a few bob. So what? In contrast the non tenderng of PPE is scandalous, I agree.

 

Interesting point about false positives, I'd be interested to see the data if you have a link?

 

My sister will be starting chemo soon. Its a good example. If covid is rampant then she is more likely to catch it and die of it. Not that it matters to much in her case but think of all the vulnerable people in hospital who could die if you let rip? 

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