Coronavirus

[trooper 940]

North East will avoid harshest restrictions as leaders told it will be placed in tier two

Pubs now expected to stay open but Government is understood to still have an eye on the region's worrying infection rate

 

[Ugly Mackems 133]

50 minutes ago, Alex said:

I think you mean non-attendees. You might want to put that trying to be clever schtick away for good. File it next to trying to be funny and trying to wind people up. 

Rather pedantic though eh? Although you would definitely know being a none, sorry non-....

[Monkeys Fist 38585]

3 hours ago, Tom said:

Aye  

I know a lad who’s mate works canny high up in one of those death sheds & he treats his employees terribly.

Says he’ll regularly get pissed and break out the “you know lads, I probably make more money than you put together” carry on. 
 

Apparently they know when you’re standing still etc  

Sounds like a total cunt lovely bloke. 

[Meenzer 13989]

Rumour has it the tier 3 restrictions requiring pubs to close won't apply to pubs that serve food.  

 

[Sonatine 9944]

 

Scruffy fucking cunt 

[Tom 13817]

Proper old man dandruff that. The kind of bloke who hassles you at a  jukebox.

[trophyshy 6432]

Hold the bells! 

[Ayatollah Hermione 12737]

Would love to know where silly cunt Sunak is finding this money

[Tom 13817]

He’s cutting benefits.

[Alex 30257]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54518002

[ewerk 26192]

A short full lockdown is the only way to get this under control. Unfortunately the government is going to leave it far too late and we're going to end up with a longer lockdown than if we did it now.

[Alex 30257]

9 minutes ago, ewerk said:

A short full lockdown is the only way to get this under control. Unfortunately the government is going to leave it far too late and we're going to end up with a longer lockdown than if we did it now.

It’s what quite a few of us have been saying for quite a while, isn’t it? The worst of both worlds in economic terms and in terms of the spread of the disease. It seemed like staggering incompetence first time round but repeating the same mistake is criminal. 

[Renton 17633]

Of course they are going to leave it too late, again. And the result will be more deaths and greater economic damage.

 

It was interesting yesterday hearing the suggestion that the North never really got the virus controlled sufficiently during lockdown, unlike the South. So when lockdown was released, which was primarily for the benefit of London, this was always going to hit the North. The tories eh, what a bunch of scallywags. 

[Dr Gloom 19744]

 

14 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

Would love to know where silly cunt Sunak is finding this money

the tories have been shaking the magic money tree again - turns out it is real

[ewerk 26192]

My guess is that they're going to wait until the Nightingale hospitals are near capacity. What's the point in paying for them if we're not going to get the use of them, eh?

[trooper 940]

1 hour ago, ewerk said:

A short full lockdown is the only way to get this under control. Unfortunately the government is going to leave it far too late and we're going to end up with a longer lockdown than if we did it now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/12/ministers-rejected-four-out-five-proposals-from-sage-to-avert-covid-second-wave

SAGE advised the government 3 weeks ago for a "circuit breaker lockdown" they  chose to ignore them.

Edited October 13, 2020 by trooper

[Toonpack 6766]

To week ending 2nd October, total registered deaths, all causes from ONS, remains at 5% (circa 600) above 5 year average (been around that for last 3 reported weeks).

[Kid Dynamite 5890]

2 hours ago, Toonpack said:

To week ending 2nd October, total registered deaths, all causes from ONS, remains at 5% (circa 600) above 5 year average (been around that for last 3 reported weeks).

I mean, we've effectively just done what they originally said they were going to do 7months ago. 
 

Under 65s are getting it at a rate of knots and are largely recovering. Over 65s either lock themselves indoors forever or risk dying if the catch it 

[NJS 3960]

I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers of infected are similar to march/April but are now more visible due to more (half-arsed) testing. 

[trooper 940]

the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) reveal a call to action three weeks ago.

"The re-imposition of a package of measures is required urgently," it warned on 21 September.

It added: "The more rapidly these interventions are put in place the greater the reduction in Covid-related deaths and the quicker they can be eased.

"Not acting now to reduce cases will result in a very large epidemic with catastrophic consequences."

[Gemmill 34190]

 

 

Don't shoot the messenger, Renty babes. This bloke is an intensive care doctor in the Midlands if you wish to take the matter up with him. 

 

[Sonatine 9944]

 

[Anorthernsoul 1221]

6 minutes ago, Sonatine said:

 

 

 

No surprise there!

[Renton 17633]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

Don't shoot the messenger, Renty babes. This bloke is an intensive care doctor in the Midlands if you wish to take the matter up with him. 

 

 

I'm not actively on Twitter so not able to respond to him, but since when does being an ICU doctor qualify you in mathematics or epidemiology? Viral spread is by definition exponential, not linear. It will always be exponential when R is above 1. But R is much lower than in March so will be flatter, might even appear linear if you force the data. I'd add another difference this time is regional variation, taking aggregated data of the country as a whole masks the issue happening in the North. 

 

You're a qualified accountant aren't you? I assumed you needed quite a good understanding of maths to do this?

 

 

[trooper 940]

Boris Johnson wants North East to agree to tougher lockdown rules including pub closures

 

The Government says it wants North East leaders to agree to tougher measures but it could impose them on the region

The Prime Minister's spokesman said talks about introducing "the most severe types of local action" were continuing.

And he said that while Mr Johnson hoped to reach agreement with local council leaders and mayors, "the Government does have the ability to impose measures if it's considered that that's what's needed."