essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 It was deliberate though.Hoy a ball in the air,jump to head it,and you won’t raise your arm the way Dyer did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Again it’s got fuck all to do with deliberate. But if it got no advantage then it shouldn’t be a penalty. Clearly not, otherwise it wouldn’t have been given. But that’s exactly why the refs should be instructed to use VAR to interpret whether there was intent, or not. The handball rule should be about stopping cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, essembeeofsunderland said: It was deliberate though.Hoy a ball in the air,jump to head it,and you won’t raise your arm the way Dyer did. No way was that deliberate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I’m enjoying the schadenfreude. Can’t stand spurs or mourinho. But this new handball rule is a turd for all to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3183 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: No way was that deliberate Quick question, Perisic handball world cup final, deliberate or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 This Spurs fan has a point mind. A worse decision than the penalty award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 And here it is from a different angle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19738 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Quick question, Perisic handball world cup final, deliberate or not? That was a tough one because he was so close to the ball when it was struck - and I can see why some people argued it wasn’t - but I thought it was, yeah. He moved his hands towards the ball to deflect it as he watched it come on to him, which to me suggests intent. It was about interpretation, which meant some people will always disagree with the decision that the referee/VAR came to. But there will be more moaning as teams are increasingly robbed of a result the way spurs were today. I can see the funny side today but I’d be seething if we were denied two points in similar circumstances Edited September 27, 2020 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Fun Fact ... Since Opta began collecting exact Premier League goal times in 2006, Callum Wilson's penalty equaliser for Newcastle (96:20) is the latest any side has scored with their first shot on target. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4183 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Well I've watched it, its quite soft but I can't say I care tbh. Newcastle coloured specs on we've been having crap soft penalties given against us for years and had stonewaller after stonewaller not given in our favour. You've to go back to 12-13 for us to be in the top half of the table for penalties awarded in our favour across the season. The handball rule was shit before and it still is. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: And here it is from a different angle Clear obstruction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, essembeeofsunderland said: Clear obstruction Like when we obstructed the mackems from the Fulwell end mate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: No way was that deliberate His hand/arm doesn’t move upwards until after Big Andy heads the ball.A pen was the correct decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26624 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Did you watch the match and see mourinho storming down the tunnel after the pen? No? Get in!!!! Exclusive!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Wether you agree with the decision about the penalty or not. It doesnt detract from the fact "Bruce's Boys" were utter dogshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2124 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Fucking hell, Ryder is trying to bum up Bruce for telling Carroll to give the penalty to Wilson to take. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel for an upside. Edited September 27, 2020 by Polarboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8868 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 If I was only half as lucky as Bruceysaurus I would have won the lottery twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 This follow up to the one posted before he just talks constant shite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Howay said: This follow up to the one posted before he just talks constant shite. Theres no joy aside from the games we won. Odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14528 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 13 hours ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Did it hit his arm? Yes. Was his arm away from his body? Yes. Did his team gain an advantage through it hitting his arm? Yes. I honestly don’t see what all the whining is about, everyone wanted clearer rules and they now have them. Get a fucking grip. The rules have been changed to fit in with VAR, which is a tiny bit bizarre as VAR was supposedly a cure all for all refereeing mistakes...but now we’re changing the 150 year old rules of the game to keep twats watching tv & commenting on the internet happy....it’s fuckin nonsense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3183 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: That was a tough one because he was so close to the ball when it was struck - and I can see why some people argued it wasn’t - but I thought it was, yeah. He moved his hands towards the ball to deflect it as he watched it come on to him, which to me suggests intent. It was about interpretation, which meant some people will always disagree with the decision that the referee/VAR came to. But there will be more moaning as teams are increasingly robbed of a result the way spurs were today. I can see the funny side today but I’d be seething if we were denied two points in similar circumstances Cool, see I would trust you to make the decision but not our bent refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3183 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: The rules have been changed to fit in with VAR, which is a tiny bit bizarre as VAR was supposedly a cure all for all refereeing mistakes...but now we’re changing the 150 year old rules of the game to keep twats watching tv & commenting on the internet happy....it’s fuckin nonsense... Well that’s bollocks because rules change all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14528 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Well that’s bollocks because rules change all the time. On the face of it, that’s correct....eg pass back to goalkeeper rule & offside rule have both changed in the last 30 years but you have to look at the context why the changes were made. These two rules were changed in an attempt to make the game a better spectacle. Pass back undoubtedly did, the offside changes caused a lot of confusion. The handball in the penalty area rule has changed twice in a year because of VAR. I’m not a fan either of the context or how it plays out on the pitch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 VAR assists the ref.The referee has the final say.This happened for the deliberate handball by Dyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38571 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 51 minutes ago, essembeeofsunderland said: VAR assists the ref.The referee has the final say.This happened for the deliberate handball by Dyer. Kieron retired years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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